Debates between Gareth Thomas and Robin Walker during the 2010-2015 Parliament

High Cost Credit Bill

Debate between Gareth Thomas and Robin Walker
Friday 12th July 2013

(11 years, 4 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Robin Walker Portrait Mr Walker
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I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his clarification, but I am sure the law would allow Unite the Union to contribute to Conservative party funds in the future.

Gareth Thomas Portrait Mr Thomas
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Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Robin Walker Portrait Mr Walker
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Having given way once, I want to make some progress.

The payday and high-cost loans industry has grown fast, as has been said.

Gareth Thomas Portrait Mr Thomas
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I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way. Interestingly, I think that Unite is one of the funders of a banking project in Salford that is designed to encourage alternatives to payday lending. Would he like to praise Unite and the other funders of that initiative, which is a little like a community bank?

Robin Walker Portrait Mr Walker
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I would be very happy to do so. I have already praised Unite for some of the work it does in my constituency. I have no issues whatsoever in doing that.

Although I am sure many of the companies in the payday and high-cost loans industry will protest that they merely provide a service that their customers want, there are too many examples of people who have been trapped into loans they cannot afford to repay and of vulnerable people who have acted without sufficient advice or without the understanding that we would want them to have of the real costs and risks that they are taking on.

Research by Which? has shown that nearly 24% of people taking on so-called payday loans are using them to repay other forms of credit. StepChange tells me that constituents from Worcester who have contacted it owed as much as £1,717 on payday loans, which is much more than they are likely to receive in monthly income.

I have spoken in previous debates in support of the broad concept of capping the cost of lending, but I am aware of the controversies involved. I know that some colleagues warn—and, indeed, that many non-governmental organisations and charities argue—that there is a real risk in setting caps that more people could be driven into a black market and into the hands of illegal money lenders who would charge even more and offer less recourse.