Debates between Edward Leigh and Alex Chalk during the 2015-2017 Parliament

Mon 6th Jun 2016
Investigatory Powers Bill
Commons Chamber

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Investigatory Powers Bill

Debate between Edward Leigh and Alex Chalk
Report: 1st sitting: House of Commons
Monday 6th June 2016

(8 years, 5 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Edward Leigh Portrait Sir Edward Leigh
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Exactly. It is an inhibition, and I presume that the Home Secretary and Prime Minister would take that extreme step only because they were convinced that this was a matter of national security. Before they took such a step, which we all agree is serious, would it do any harm to consult somebody who is obviously completely separated from politics?

Alex Chalk Portrait Alex Chalk (Cheltenham) (Con)
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Is there not an issue of accountability here? If the judgment is wrong, would it not be extremely regrettable for the Speaker to be dragged into the court of public opinion as someone who got that judgment wrong, as opposed to the Executive or the Prime Minister who could properly be hauled over the coals?

Edward Leigh Portrait Sir Edward Leigh
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I understand that example, but it can be taken to extremes. Every day of the week the Speaker makes decisions. He decides how we conduct our business and who should be called, and we could always argue that we should not give the Speaker more powers because he might make a mistake or be called to account. We are not talking about the Speaker being involved in whether we should pass a particular Bill or controversy; we are talking about a very narrow circumstance in which the Government of the day have decided to intercept the communications of a Member of Parliament. All I am suggesting is that before they take that step, they consult the Speaker.