Transport Emissions: Urban Areas

Desmond Swayne Excerpts
Tuesday 22nd May 2018

(5 years, 11 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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I always richly enjoy the Secretary of State’s performances, almost as richly as he does himself. I hope, however, he will not take it amiss if I gently point out that to refer to the hon. Member for Brent North is in order, but to name him is not.

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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It is shocking, as the right hon. Gentleman observes in a disorderly manner from a sedentary position.

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Michael Gove Portrait Michael Gove
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It is important to realise that there was widespread recognition in the report produced by the hon. Lady and other Select Committee Chairs that road transport was simply one of the sources of air pollution. In this strategy, we are complementing what was already announced last year in our roadside NOx emissions strategy, with action on ports, air travel and trains, which is a signal of the determined efforts we are taking across the Government to deal with all the sources of air pollution.

The hon. Lady says that we should move faster than to get rid of internal combustion engines by 2040, but I have to say to her that no other major developed economy is taking that step. We need to take a balanced approach towards setting a firm deadline for moving away from conventional petrol and diesel engines, while also providing industry with the time to adjust.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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Precisely what are my right hon. Friend’s plans to interfere with my fireplaces and my bonfire?

Michael Gove Portrait Michael Gove
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I know that my right hon. Friend is one of the most responsible dwellers in the New Forest. He would never burn wet wood or coal with a high level of bitumen; only the driest and most parched twigs will find their way on to his fire and he will use only the appropriate and less smoky coal. I also know that he lives in one of the most beautiful parts of rural Hampshire, and as a result any emissions he generates are unlikely to form a particularly toxic cloud.

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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The Secretary of State is obviously immensely familiar with the right hon. Gentleman’s domestic arrangements, and we are all greatly fortified by the knowledge of that important fact.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne
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He is very kind, but quite right.