Debates between Clive Jones and Torsten Bell during the 2024 Parliament

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Debate between Clive Jones and Torsten Bell
Monday 12th October 2026

(2 days, 10 hours ago)

Commons Chamber
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Clive Jones Portrait Clive Jones (Wokingham) (LD)
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9. What assessment he has made of the potential merits of requiring pension scheme surpluses in defined-benefit schemes to be used to improve pensions for members before surplus funds can be released to sponsoring employers.

Torsten Bell Portrait The Minister for Pensions (Torsten Bell)
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The Government’s reforms provide greater flexibility for well-funded defined-benefit pension schemes to share surplus with employers and to benefit members. Scheme trustees, who must act in the interests of scheme beneficiaries, are best placed to determine the appropriate use of any surplus for their individual scheme. Trustees will agree how members can benefit, working with sponsoring employers.

Clive Jones Portrait Clive Jones
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Is it not the case that nothing in law stops the Government requiring pre-1997 pensions to be restored before surplus goes back to employers, and that the only reason it is not happening is that the Minister has decided that it should not?

Torsten Bell Portrait Torsten Bell
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I thank the hon. Gentleman for his question; he and I have met and discussed this issue on many occasions. Around three quarters of schemes already provide some pre-1997 indexation, but the hon. Gentleman is right to point out the strength of feeling on this. I have met with many MPs and scheme members, including those in south Wales who have been affected by lack of pre-1997 indexation on their defined benefit schemes. It is separate from the changes that we have already introduced for the Pension Protection Fund’s indexation.

Trustees need to be in the driving seat. Employers will have no direct access to a scheme’s surplus. The flexibilities we have put in place through the Pension Schemes Act 2026 and the guidance being provided by the Pensions Regulator are already changing the nature of the discussion between trustees and employers, and will lead to a step change in this area.

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Debate between Clive Jones and Torsten Bell
Tuesday 8th September 2026

(1 month ago)

Commons Chamber
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Torsten Bell Portrait Torsten Bell
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I thank my hon. Friend for his question and congratulate his wife on what is a significant achievement; I am sure the whole House is supporting her. He is absolutely right that we want to see more young people having the income, opportunities and purpose that work provides, which is why it is welcome that employment is up. However, we do need to do more. We will keep providing national insurance relief for employees aged under 21 and apprentices under 25, and we are rolling out our youth hubs, including in North Somerset.

Clive Jones Portrait Clive Jones (Wokingham) (LD)
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T8. Given the chronic underfunding of Wokingham borough council, which is facing difficult choices and placing increasing pressure on local services, what steps will the Government take to ensure that Wokingham receives a fairer settlement and can provide the services that residents deserve?

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Debate between Clive Jones and Torsten Bell
Monday 27th April 2026

(5 months, 2 weeks ago)

Commons Chamber
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Torsten Bell Portrait The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Torsten Bell)
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I thank my hon. Friend for her question. There absolutely are lessons for us to learn from this experience, both related to that particular case, and on the general point about giving adequate notice of any changes to the state pension age; that is the most important lesson, and we are absolutely committed to learning that. On the action plan, that will be focused on state pension age comms, and on complaint handling. We will work closely with the Parliamentary and Health Service Ombudsman on that right away, and I hope to be able to publish that action plan in the coming months. More broadly, we are not waiting for that, but are getting on with action. I am sure that hon. Members will have seen over the last few months the “check your state pension age” campaign, encouraging people to be aware of their state pension age.

Clive Jones Portrait Clive Jones (Wokingham) (LD)
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Twelve weeks ago, I raised four cases with the DWP, and I am still waiting for a response, despite chasing. These delays are upsetting for my Wokingham constituents. What is the Minister doing to address this backlog, and when can my constituents expect a response?