(14 years, 10 months ago)
Commons Chamber Clive Efford (Eltham) (Lab)
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Clive Efford (Eltham) (Lab) 
        
    
        
    
        May I suggest that the Secretary of State visit, as I did recently, the Isis centre at Belmarsh prison, which is taking some innovative steps towards rehabilitating young offenders? With that in mind, I think that young offenders sometimes need custodial sentences to turn their lives around. Will he confirm therefore that judges will not have the discretion to give anything other than a custodial sentence to someone who uses a knife in a criminal act?
 Mr Clarke
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Mr Clarke 
        
    
        
    
        I think I can, although I do not think we need to put it in statute. I would be utterly astonished if a judge did not give a custodial sentence to anybody who used a knife in a criminal act. I approve of prison sentences in such cases, but I do not think we need to legislate on it. It is the nuances of far less serious cases that will get us into difficulty. However, if a person stabs somebody, they should go to prison, and I would be quite shocked if somebody did not go to prison in such circumstances.