(14 years, 4 months ago)
Commons Chamber Ian Swales
    
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Ian Swales 
        
    
        
    
        I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. I just read out a long list of items that are VAT-free; that was the point of what I was saying.
 Clive Efford
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Clive Efford 
        
    
        
    
        Those items were VAT-free when the hon. Gentleman made his pledge at the general election. When he stood for election, he said that the poorest people in society were affected most by increases in VAT, and that it was therefore a regressive tax. He was right then, and that point is still right now. Why, then, is it correct and appropriate for the poorest people in our communities to pay for the deficit that was run up by the richest bankers in the country?
 Ian Swales
    
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Ian Swales 
        
    
        
    
        The hon. Gentleman has strayed off the topic of the new clause, but on my party’s policy on VAT, obviously we are between a rock and a hard place, due to the economic state of the country. We had some very difficult choices to make, and a progressive expenditure tax is the right answer.