Debates between Clive Efford and Alison McGovern during the 2024 Parliament

National Care Service

Debate between Clive Efford and Alison McGovern
Thursday 15th October 2026

(1 day, 12 hours ago)

Commons Chamber
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Alison McGovern Portrait Alison McGovern
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I do not accept what the right hon. Gentleman has just said, and I do not agree with it either.

Clive Efford Portrait Clive Efford (Eltham and Chislehurst) (Lab)
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I very much welcome the statement and any move towards a national care service, but my hon. Friend knows as much as I do that people often experience a clash of bureaucracies, which leads to a slowdown in the delivery of care or care packages. People are stuck in hospitals for a variety of reasons, but for many it is because that clash cannot be resolved to move them from hospital in a timely fashion. We cannot wait for that to be resolved; we need to resolve it now. Can she reassure me that she is working on that, because if we can solve that, we can solve large parts of the problem in this Parliament and not have to wait for the next?

Alison McGovern Portrait Alison McGovern
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My hon. Friend makes exactly the argument as to why we have to take steps now to improve the system. In my statement, I mentioned the increase in the number of organisations using digital care records to help smooth the system, but it also takes the working together of NHS organisations, local authorities and care companies. That is happening in some places. The problem is it is not happening everywhere, and he is absolutely spot on that we have to take steps now.