Universal Credit Roll-out Debate

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Department: Department for Work and Pensions
Wednesday 18th October 2017

(6 years, 6 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Clive Efford Portrait Clive Efford (Eltham) (Lab)
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It is not the principle, but the practicality that is at issue. [Hon. Members: “Ah!”] The principle of getting people back into work is something that we on the Labour Benches accept. The citizens advice bureau, the Trussell Trust and even John Major are saying that universal credit should be delayed, because it is increasing poverty and leading to debt and rent arrears. Are they wrong?

David Gauke Portrait Mr Gauke
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My argument is that we should not be pausing this. May I just say that I welcome the clear expression of support for the principle of universal credit? That is helpful. The case I will make today is that the principles lead us to a design that is focused on making work pay. It is diminishing the differences between being out of work and being in work, and can make a significant difference.