Debates between Christian Wakeford and Michael Ellis during the 2019-2024 Parliament

Functioning of Government

Debate between Christian Wakeford and Michael Ellis
Thursday 7th July 2022

(2 years, 4 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Michael Ellis Portrait Michael Ellis
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We have a proper Government, and proper government continues. I have to say to the hon. Gentleman that he talks about the cost of living and Ukraine, but I have hardly heard him or his hon. Friends speak of those subjects over the past six months. They have mostly been talking about personalities. It is this Government who have been getting on with the business of representing the United Kingdom in international fora and have led the way on Ukraine and, when it comes to dealing with the global cost of living crisis, having been doing that too.

Christian Wakeford Portrait Christian Wakeford (Bury South) (Lab)
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Wow! What was that response to this urgent question? Is the Minister tired of propping up this Prime Minister and defending the indefensible? Minister, where was your letter? Did it get lost with your backbone?

Michael Ellis Portrait Michael Ellis
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I am not answering any questions along those lines.

Standards in Public Life

Debate between Christian Wakeford and Michael Ellis
Tuesday 7th June 2022

(2 years, 5 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Michael Ellis Portrait Michael Ellis
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The check and balance is that the Prime Minister would have to say in writing, I think, that he will find that—[Interruption.] I have answered that point. There would have to be some indication in writing of why he has advised the independent adviser not to proceed.

Moving on, the motion calls for the Government

“to make a statement to the House on the progress made in implementing the recommendations”

of the CSPL on 20 July and every 20 July thereafter. I stress that the issues that we are debating today are complex and intricately interwoven with our constitution. I hope that hon. Members would agree that the recommendations made in this area are particularly worthy of thoughtful consideration. There will inevitably be some that we do not agree with, but surely it is better to do that than to rush into reporting on changes, under an arbitrary timetable dictated by the Opposition. While careful consideration will be given to changes, the Government remain committed to being here not once a year, but every day, to account for their performance on standards to this House and to the British public.

Michael Ellis Portrait Michael Ellis
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I will give way before I finish, but I want to highlight again that the changes to the ministerial code, and the terms of reference for the Independent Adviser on Ministers’ Interests, are a positive step forward. They signal a greater and more clearly defined role for the independent adviser, alongside a proportionate approach to breaches of the code. They are made in response to the recommendations of the Committee on Standards in Public Life and others, and following consultation with the independent adviser, for whom, I must add, I and Her Majesty’s Government generally have the greatest respect. We are very conscious of the work he does, and are honoured to have him as a public servant. I particularly emphasise that point.

Christian Wakeford Portrait Christian Wakeford
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The Minister very frequently defends the indefensible in this Chamber when many of his colleagues come to the conclusion that they cannot. He talked about a binary choice, but the binary choice is between what is right and what is wrong. My four-year-old daughter gets that; why do the Minister and the Prime Minister not?

Michael Ellis Portrait Michael Ellis
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The Prime Minister understands full well when wrong has been done, and he has apologised repeatedly. The quality of mercy is also an important one.