Debates between Chris Philp and Charles Walker during the 2019-2024 Parliament

Tue 7th Mar 2023
Public Order Bill
Commons Chamber

Consideration of Lords amendments

Public Order Bill

Debate between Chris Philp and Charles Walker
Chris Philp Portrait The Minister for Crime, Policing and Fire (Chris Philp)
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There is some factual confusion about this, and I am grateful for the opportunity to clear that up. In the other place, the Lords made an amendment to clause 19, which said that the orders could be made without a conviction. The Government accept that amendment—we do not seek to overturn it—and we accept that a conviction is required before an SDPO can be made. Clause 20 is rather misleadingly titled, because it implies that an SDPO can be made without a conviction. If Members read the clause, however, they will see, now that we have accepted the amendment to clause 19, that it applies to circumstances in which there has been a conviction and the police wish to apply to the court for an SDPO at a later date, which will still be after a conviction has been made, so we have conceded the point that my hon. Friend is making. It is rather confusing because the title of clause 20 is a bit confusing, but we have conceded that point.

Charles Walker Portrait Sir Charles Walker
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I am relieved to hear that.