Transparency of Lobbying, Non-Party Campaigning and Trade Union Administration Bill
Debate between Chloe Smith and Viscount Thurso(10 years, 7 months ago)
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Miss Smith
I am very grateful to the hon. Gentleman.
With that, I will finish speaking so that it is possible for another Back Bencher to speak.
John Thurso
As the Minister is in such a generous mood, would she like to look at my amendment 45?
Miss Smith
While we are discussing the topic of further amendments to support, I ought to add that the Opposition made no objection to the programme motion in July.
In concluding, I will turn briefly to amendment 137, which would require that details be provided about any communications between consultant lobbyists and Ministers or permanent secretaries, even if they were not in return for payment, not on behalf of a third party and did not concern Government policy or functions. That would mean that if a consultant lobbyist bumped into a Minister on the tube and spoke about the weather, not Government issues, that meeting would need to be recorded. Indeed, if a consultant lobbyist happened to be married to a permanent secretary, it would be necessary for the details of their communications to be disclosed on a quarterly basis, even if they never took work home, as it were.
I can see that hon. Members are attempting to ensure that inappropriate conversations about ministerial responsibilities do not take place in private, but this is another example of good intentions leading to unintended consequences through unclear drafting. The answer has to be a declaration by Ministers of any meetings that touch upon their ministerial responsibilities, the framework for which we have provided in government. That will form a central part of the transparency regime that we are introducing in part 1 of the Bill. I urge the hon. Member for Nottingham North not to press amendment 137.