High Speed Rail (Preparation) Bill

Debate between Barry Sheerman and Cheryl Gillan
Thursday 31st October 2013

(11 years, 6 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Cheryl Gillan Portrait Mrs Gillan
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I am very glad to hear that. I do not know how many years after the project this has become apparent. [Hon. Members: “Ten.”] Ten years; thank you.

Barry Sheerman Portrait Mr Barry Sheerman (Huddersfield) (Lab/Co-op)
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I want to reinforce something the right hon. Lady said about connectivity. A lot of people think that those of us who oppose HS2 are against connectivity and high-speed transportation. We are not. We want the right connectivity that will help all the towns and cities in this country to grow, but we do not want more of our country’s lifeblood being sucked down into London and the south.

Cheryl Gillan Portrait Mrs Gillan
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I thank the hon. Gentleman for that intervention. Of course, it echoed the words of Lord Mandelson, who really does know an awful lot about the genesis of this project. It certainly has that vampiric touch about it, as I think Members on both sides of the House can appreciate.

Cheryl Gillan Portrait Mrs Gillan
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Oh simple, simple question, Secretary of State! What leader of any council of any political colour or persuasion would turn down the millions and millions of pounds being thrown at their areas? It would be completely stupid of them to do anything other than support it.

Barry Sheerman Portrait Mr Sheerman
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Cheryl Gillan Portrait Mrs Gillan
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I give way to the hon. Gentleman one last time.

Barry Sheerman Portrait Mr Sheerman
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The Secretary of State has commented following my intervention. I have talked to people in the big cities, and many of them have not read the six critical evaluations of the impact of HS2, and they certainly have not looked at the impact of high-speed rail on the provincial cities in France. It is sucking the lifeblood out of them and into the metropolitan area around Paris. We have also not been told on what grounds the local people here, who have not been given a referendum—