Honda in Swindon

Debate between Baroness Vere of Norbiton and Baroness Walmsley

Tuesday 19th February 2019 Lords Chamber

[Baroness Vere of Norbiton]

My Lords, some members of the Labour Party already support the Prime Minister’s deal, and I do not think it is out of the question that one or two more might see that it is the way forward for our country. As I have said, and say again, the Government’s position is that we do not want a no-deal Brexit. I agree with the noble Lord that there are certain members of my own party who also need to look very carefully at the potential outcomes. They need to weigh up the options and decide accordingly.

[Baroness Walmsley (LD)]

My Lords, I noticed that the Minister did not answer the point made by the noble Baroness, Lady Altmann, about the Government’s options in relation to no deal. A few minutes earlier she fell into the trap, which many Ministers fall into, of stating something that is not correct: that the only alternative to no deal is a deal. That is not correct. We have the opportunity to unilaterally withdraw Article 50, to request an extension or to put the matter to the people of this country again. Why do the Government keep saying something that is incorrect? They put 29 March 2019 into the legislation and they can remove it but stubbornly refuse to do so.

[Baroness Vere of Norbiton]

I thank the noble Baroness for the exposition of Liberal Democrat policy.

[Baroness Walmsley]

It is a fact.

[Baroness Vere of Norbiton]

I was merely stating the Government’s position. We believe that the option on the table is the best one for our country and therefore we would appreciate its support.

Inquiries Act 2005: Child Sexual Abuse

Debate between Baroness Vere of Norbiton and Baroness Walmsley

Thursday 22nd November 2018 Lords Chamber

[Baroness Vere of Norbiton]

My Lords, the House and the noble Lord, Lord Campbell-Savours, well know that it is not the role of government to interfere in statutory inquiries. Their independence would be undermined if the Government were seen to interfere in their conduct. The noble Lord may wish to note that the inquiry published on its website in April and May 2017 notices of determination regarding this investigative strand. These summarise submissions received by the chair and decisions subsequently taken, and they confirm the inquiry’s position on this strand as being kept under review. The noble Lord is of course free to raise his concerns directly with the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse. It would be a matter for the inquiry chair and panel to decide how to proceed.

[Baroness Walmsley (LD)]

My Lords, what will the Government do to protect whistleblowers who expose child abuse and abuse in other areas but are subsequently hounded out of their jobs, lose their careers and often go into a lot of legal debt protecting themselves? Does she agree that instead of such treatment, these people deserve a medal for service to their country?

[Baroness Vere of Norbiton]

My Lords, I entirely agree that it is very important to protect whistleblowers. They can be sources of very valid and important information where crimes have been committed. The context of this Question does not allow me to provide any further information, so I hope the noble Baroness will agree that I can write to her.