Civil Service Appointments Debate

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Department: Cabinet Office

Civil Service Appointments

Angela Eagle Excerpts
Tuesday 30th June 2020

(4 years, 5 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Michael Gove Portrait Michael Gove
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My hon. Friend, who was a distinguished Foreign Office and International Development Minister, raises an important point. This is an area outside my immediate responsibility, but I will report back to the House on it.

Angela Eagle Portrait Ms Angela Eagle (Wallasey) (Lab)
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I congratulate the Secretary of State for making the most outrageous points and keeping a straight face. He is very good at doing that. Will he answer the question asked right at the beginning of this debate by the former Prime Minister, the right hon. Member for Maidenhead (Mrs May)? Precisely what are the new National Security Adviser’s qualifications in national security, which, after all, all of us care about because it is about the safety and security of each and every person in this country? What are his specific qualifications and expertise, and why on earth, given his other job, was he considered even for a second for this role?

Michael Gove Portrait Michael Gove
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I am grateful to the hon. Lady for her compliment.

Angela Eagle Portrait Ms Angela Eagle
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indicated dissent.

Michael Gove Portrait Michael Gove
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I know it was salty, but nevertheless there was an air of sweetness about it as well.

The broader point, though, is that, as I mentioned earlier, David Frost is involved in one of the most complex diplomatic negotiations that has ever been conducted, and a diplomatic negotiation that relates specifically to defence and security co-operation as well as to tariffs and trade. He has been a civil servant—a diplomat—for decades. It is the case that Mark Lyall Grant, who was National Security Adviser, and Kim Darroch, who was National Security Adviser, were not people who were steeped in the world of intelligence and security; they were gifted diplomats and gifted public servants, and of course they were supported, as David will be, by a superb team in the National Security Secretariat.