All 1 Debates between Andrew Turner and David Nuttall

Sustainable Livestock Bill

Debate between Andrew Turner and David Nuttall
Friday 12th November 2010

(14 years, 1 month ago)

Commons Chamber
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David Nuttall Portrait Mr Nuttall
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My hon. Friend is right. The NFU has stated that it supports the aims of the Bill, which it thinks is “admirable in intent”, but does not take into account the work that has already been done—a point that I shall make later.

Andrew Turner Portrait Mr Andrew Turner (Isle of Wight) (Con)
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Does my hon. Friend agree that many people are concerned about what will happen in the future? What concerns them in particular is the keeping of cows in hundreds and hundreds in barns, rather than in the countryside?

David Nuttall Portrait Mr Nuttall
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I agree. My hon. Friend is right. Many people are concerned about that. They can already support organic farming by buying organic products. That is the way forward. I would like to see the problem resolved by organisations promoting organic foodstuffs and by individuals choosing to support, of their own free will, organic farmers and buying organic products. To try and achieve those aims by putting on the statute book legislation such as the Bill before us is not the way forward.

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David Nuttall Portrait Mr Nuttall
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Over the centuries, farming has been sustained in this country by the farmer and the countryside has been looked after by the farmer, and I will come on to those matters later in my remarks.

Andrew Turner Portrait Mr Andrew Turner
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Farmers have looked after the fields for generations, but does my hon. Friend agree that the problem is that, in future, people will aim to transmute that work, to take it away from farmers and to give it to bureaucrats, who build the sheds that we have criticised?

David Nuttall Portrait Mr Nuttall
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There is a danger of that happening, and I thank my hon. Friend for that point. The Bill may make that problem even worse.

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David Nuttall Portrait Mr Nuttall
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Or 6,000. That is the crucial point.

Andrew Turner Portrait Mr Turner
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No, that is not the crucial point. The crucial point is that the cattle would be kept inside year-round, never setting hoof outside.

David Nuttall Portrait Mr Nuttall
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Any farmer will tell us that an unhappy—if we can use that term—animal does not produce milk.