Debates between Andrew Pakes and Christopher Chope during the 2024 Parliament

Skills England

Debate between Andrew Pakes and Christopher Chope
Wednesday 9th October 2024

(1 month, 1 week ago)

Westminster Hall
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Andrew Pakes Portrait Andrew Pakes (Peterborough) (Lab)
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Let me put on record that I am co-chair of the all-party parliamentary group on apprenticeships. In preparation for your speech, I totted it up and it seemed that Skills England will be the fifth such national quango set up by Westminster since the Manpower Services Commission in 1973. The average tenure of a Skills Minister since 1997 has been 15 months—

Christopher Chope Portrait Sir Christopher Chope (in the Chair)
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Order. It is helpful if you address your remarks through the Chair, rather than turning away. Apart from anything else, it makes it difficult for Hansard to record what you are saying.

Andrew Pakes Portrait Andrew Pakes
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I apologise, Sir Christopher; this is my first such intervention in one of these debates. Since 1997, the average tenure for a Skills Minister has been 15 months—longer than Liz Truss’s, but shorter than a premier league manager’s. The average life of a skills quango such as Skills England has been only eight years, less time than most people spend in primary school. Does my hon. Friend agree that the only way that Skills England will be a success is if it is linked to industrial strategy, is tripartite and brings together employers and unions? That would mean that we would have a durable system and not a repeat of the failures of the past, which saw short-term interventions that have not delivered for working-class people.