Mandatory Use of Closed Circuit Television in Slaughterhouses (England) Regulations 2018
Viscount Ullswater Excerpts(6 years, 1 month ago)
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Lord Campbell-Savours (Lab)
My Lords, I am sorry to intervene, but I want to clarify something at the beginning of the debate. The Minister said that the Government expected the arrangements to be “proportionate”. Can he explain what “proportionate” means, because it might worry some of us?
The Deputy Chairman of Committees (Viscount Ullswater) (Con)
My Lords, it may be for the convenience of the Committee if the Minister introduces the regulations. I can then put a Question to the Committee and we can have a debate.
Lord Campbell-Savours
Sometimes a debate is helped by an early intervention on the Minister.
Horsemeat and Food Fraud
Viscount Ullswater Excerpts(11 years, 3 months ago)
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Lord De Mauley
My Lords, the Irish were acting on intelligence. They conducted their test and, lo and behold, they found horsemeat. We had not received similar intelligence but I have no doubt that our testing regime is absolutely rigorous.
Viscount Ullswater
My Lords, under European Commission Regulation 504/2008, a vet must record in a horse passport all treatments with veterinary medicinal products, which determines whether a horse can enter the food chain. Are Her Majesty’s Government satisfied that this part of the regulation is being adhered to? The occupier of a slaughterhouse must hand the passport of a slaughtered horse to the vets at the slaughterhouse, who must record the microchip number of the animal, mark the passport accordingly and send it to the issuing authority. Are the Minister and the Government satisfied that that is happening in every case?
Lord De Mauley
My Lords, the appearance is certainly that that is the case, but that matter will be part of the ongoing investigations. Perhaps I may add to my answer to my noble friend Lady Browning on whether we test stock, as in stock cubes. It would be very difficult to test stock cubes because there will be little or no DNA present in them.