All 1 Debates between Baroness Winterton of Doncaster and Lord Clarke of Nottingham

Wed 13th Dec 2017
European Union (Withdrawal) Bill
Commons Chamber

Committee: 7th sitting: House of Commons

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill

Debate between Baroness Winterton of Doncaster and Lord Clarke of Nottingham
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait The Second Deputy Chairman of Ways and Means (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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It is disorderly to say that an hon. Member is misleading the Committee. I suggest that the hon. Member for Yeovil (Mr Fysh) settles down and allows the Father of the House to continue.

Lord Clarke of Nottingham Portrait Mr Kenneth Clarke
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Qualified majority voting means that each Government cast a vote and, if we get a qualified majority, that is the effective decision. Each Minister who takes part in that vote is, of course, accountable to their own Parliament, to which they go home and defend their vote. If it is on a difficult, controversial subject, any sensible Minister—all those Ministers—will take the view of their Parliament before going to cast their vote on behalf of their country. It is utterly ludicrous to say that this Parliament should be denied a vote and not allowed a role because qualified majority voting somehow replaces it. My hon. Friend the Member for Yeovil (Mr Fysh) says that what I say is untrue and, with great respect, I would say that his argument is an absurdity.