All 6 Debates between Baroness Winterton of Doncaster and Lord Beamish

Tue 3rd Nov 2020
Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill
Commons Chamber

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Leasehold Reform

Debate between Baroness Winterton of Doncaster and Lord Beamish
Tuesday 23rd May 2023

(1 year, 7 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Lord Beamish Portrait Mr Kevan Jones
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On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. I might be old-fashioned, but I thought that when Ministers came to the Chamber to reply, they had to reply to the debate. The Minister has thanked Members from her own Benches who have spoken, but detailed questions were asked by Members from across the House. All we are getting is a speech written by civil servants, not a response to the debate, and she is quite clearly refusing to take any interventions from my hon. Friends.

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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I thank the right hon. Gentleman for his point of order. Obviously I am not responsible for the Minister’s speech, but I am sure she will be referring to the contributions made by others during her winding-up speech—she is perhaps coming to that now.

I am also checking to make sure that the other Minister, the hon. Member for North East Derbyshire (Lee Rowley), will be coming back to the Chamber. I am not sure that he gave apologies for not being here for the wind-ups, but we are just checking.

Points of Order

Debate between Baroness Winterton of Doncaster and Lord Beamish
Thursday 17th December 2020

(4 years ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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I am grateful to the hon. Lady for her point of order and for giving me advance notice of her intention to raise the matter. If a Minister wished to make a statement, had notified Mr Speaker accordingly and a statement was to be made, the House would have been informed. As she knows, Mr Speaker is very anxious that statements are made first to the House and not to the media. I am sure that those on the Treasury Bench will have noted her concerns and will convey them back to the relevant Department.

Lord Beamish Portrait Mr Kevan Jones (North Durham) (Lab)
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Further to that point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. The Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, in his response to my hon. Friend the Member for Manchester, Withington (Jeff Smith), was very clear that the Secretary of State for Education is to make an announcement on schools. I have been inundated—I am sure many other right hon. and hon. Members have been, too—with emails, letters and correspondence from parents and teachers concerned about what is happening in schools. I know Mr Speaker is very clear that statements should be made here and not outside. I therefore wonder whether, through you, Madam Deputy Speaker, Mr Speaker could this afternoon inquire at the Department for Education whether or not a statement is going to be made to the House this afternoon, because this is causing great anxiety among our constituents.

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker
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There is very little I can add to what I said previously, but of course I will convey back the various points that have been made. As I said, I am sure those on the Treasury Bench will convey the points back to the Department as well.

We will have a three-minute suspension to allow for the safe exit and entry of hon. and right hon. Members.

Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Bill

Debate between Baroness Winterton of Doncaster and Lord Beamish
Lord Beamish Portrait Mr Kevan Jones
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On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. The Minister has just accused my right hon. Friend the Member for Wentworth and Dearne (John Healey) of being disingenuous. Is that actually parliamentary?

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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I am sure the Minister meant “unintentionally disingenuous”.

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Lord Beamish Portrait Mr Jones
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On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. The Minister has now added mind-reading to his many skills. The Minister, who is actually a good friend of mine, has just made an accusation against me and has not given me the right to reply to it. It was his Government, in 2010, who set up IHAT and Northmoor, not the Labour Government.

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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I do not want the point of order to become a subject of debate, but obviously—[Interruption.] Thank you; I can cope. Obviously, the Secretary of State has referred to the right hon. Gentleman, and he may feel it appropriate to give way.

Police Grant Report

Debate between Baroness Winterton of Doncaster and Lord Beamish
Tuesday 5th February 2019

(5 years, 10 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Lord Beamish Portrait Mr Kevan Jones
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On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. We have had a good debate, but it was undersubscribed on the Conservative Benches. Is it in order for the hon. Member for Chelmsford (Vicky Ford), who stormed off early in the debate when her intervention was not taken and has not been present, to use an intervention to make a mini speech?

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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Nothing disorderly has occurred. The right hon. Gentleman has put on the record his concerns about people not being present for the debate and then intervening.

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Lord Beamish Portrait Mr Kevan Jones
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On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker—

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker
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It had better be good. It is not fair not to let the Minister respond.

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Lord Beamish Portrait Mr Jones
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It is good. We have another example of a Member who has not been present for the debate. He is being lazy and could not be bothered to turn up—

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker
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Sit down. Nothing disorderly has happened and the Minister has the right to respond.

Prevention and Suppression of Terrorism

Debate between Baroness Winterton of Doncaster and Lord Beamish
Tuesday 19th December 2017

(7 years ago)

Commons Chamber
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Lord Beamish Portrait Mr Kevan Jones (North Durham) (Lab)
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The hon. Lady should look at the detail of today’s announcement. No extra Government funding has been announced at all. What is happening is that the cash from central Government is being kept flat and her local taxpayers will be asked to fund the gap.

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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Order. The hon. Member for Redditch (Rachel Maclean) will stick to the subject of this debate, which is not actually police funding.

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Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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Order. I really want to ensure that we return to the subject of this debate.

Lord Beamish Portrait Mr Jones
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For counter-terrorism, the Minister is correct; there will be more money for counter-terrorism. But unless he can read the tea leaves and predict that every single policy authority will put the maximum on local precepts, he cannot give the undertaking on frontline policing that he has just given.

Armed Forces Pay

Debate between Baroness Winterton of Doncaster and Lord Beamish
Wednesday 1st November 2017

(7 years, 1 month ago)

Commons Chamber
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Lord Beamish Portrait Mr Kevan Jones
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On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. Is it in order for one Member to accuse another Member of something that is not true and then not allow that Member to respond to it?

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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I am sure the hon. Member for Plymouth, Moor View (Johnny Mercer) will feel that if he has referred to another hon. Member in that way, he might like to take an intervention.

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Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker
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Order. Can we not have conversation across the Chamber? This is an intervention and the hon. Member for Plymouth, Moor View will then respond to it.

Lord Beamish Portrait Mr Jones
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I was proud to introduce the Army Recovery Capability, which made sure we supported the armed forces coming back from Afghanistan and Iraq with severe injuries. I was proud to be a part of a Labour Government who introduced the Armed Forces (Pensions and Compensation) Act 2004, which for the first time brought in lump sum payments for those severely injured. The track record of our Administration on support for veterans will stand up to any scrutiny in comparison with what the Conservative Government have done since.