Scottish Referendum Legislation: Supreme Court Decision

Debate between Baroness Winterton of Doncaster and Alister Jack

Wednesday 23rd November 2022 Commons Chamber

[Mr Jack]

This idea that a mandate was delivered in 2021 in the Holyrood elections is completely misleading. As the First Minister herself said very clearly in an interview in The Herald—this is when she thought that the former First Minister, the previous SNP leader Alex Salmond, was gaming the system with his party Alba—that parties should stand on both the list and first-past-the-post constituency systems. The Greens did not fulfil that and neither did Alba. Let us be clear: in the 2021 Holyrood elections—the so-called mandate—less than one third of the Scottish electorate voted for the SNP.

[Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)]

I call the shadow Secretary of State for Scotland.

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[Mr Jack]

The hon. Lady speaks for many people in Scotland who fear the same thing—[Interruption.]

[Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)]

Order. The more people yell out, the further down the order they will go. I call Alan Brown.

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[Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)]

Order. It is important, if we are to get everybody in, that the questions are short.

[Mr Jack]

It is important we get everyone in and they have their say. I refer the hon. Lady to the answer I gave earlier: less than a third of the Scottish electorate voted for the Scottish National party. It is entirely a matter of consensus, and at the moment we believe that the priorities should be elsewhere. The cost of living, supporting people through inflation, the energy price cap, getting on and delivering freeports, delivering on the growth deals—those are the things that we think the people of Scotland expect us to do.

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[Mr Jack]

The claim of right? We had a Union of the Crowns in 1603 and a Union of the Parliaments in 1707, but they were all a terribly long time ago. We firmly believe that we have a strong partnership that has endured for more than 300 years and has delivered for all parts of the United Kingdom, and that we are better together.

[Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)]

I thank the Secretary of State.