Debates between Peter Kyle and Robert Buckland during the 2015-2017 Parliament

Thu 14th Apr 2016
Investigatory Powers Bill (Sixth sitting)
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Investigatory Powers Bill (Sixth sitting)

Debate between Peter Kyle and Robert Buckland
Committee Debate: 6th sitting: House of Commons
Thursday 14th April 2016

(8 years, 8 months ago)

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Robert Buckland Portrait The Solicitor General
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But is it? We have got to be absolutely clear. None of us would want that type of offence to fall outwith any of the criteria in these provisions—I am sure that would be the case.

Peter Kyle Portrait Peter Kyle (Hove) (Lab)
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Proportionality was a central part of the discussion on Second Reading, and we received many reassurances from the Government. My hon. and learned Friend the Member for Holborn and St Pancras has made a powerful point about the use of these powers in minor crimes. The Bill lowers the threshold to

“damage to a person’s physical or mental health”

or the potential thereof. Will the Minister tell us what crime or potential crime does not pose damage to a person’s physical or mental health, or have the potential thereof?

Robert Buckland Portrait The Solicitor General
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Of course, there are plenty of offences that do not involve violence or the threat of violence, such as fraud, although I understand that the potential consequences of some fraud can cause stress. May I reassure him that the test of necessity and proportionality in clause 53(7) remains very much at the centre of everything? I would not want him to be misled into thinking, as has perhaps been suggested by some of his Front Bench colleagues, that this is a free-for-all; far from it.