All 1 Debates between Baroness Hodge of Barking and Mark Hoban

Alignment (Clear Line of Sight) Project

Debate between Baroness Hodge of Barking and Mark Hoban
Monday 5th July 2010

(14 years, 4 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Mark Hoban Portrait Mr Hoban
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My hon. Friend makes an important point and I will come later to the treatment of income in the clear line of sight project, to address in particular the issue he raises.

Baroness Hodge of Barking Portrait Margaret Hodge (Barking) (Lab)
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May I ask a number of questions on the non-departmental bodies with which the hon. Gentleman was dealing? First, when will they be incorporated into the estimates? Secondly, how will NDPBs that get some of their grant funding from a number of Departments be dealt with in the estimates? The third, and contentious, issue is NDPBs that may have reserves of moneys raised outside of Government, and which want the freedom to spend those moneys in ways appropriate to their governing bodies.

Mark Hoban Portrait Mr Hoban
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The right hon. Lady raises some interesting points. On her first point, my understanding is that this provision will come into force for the financial year 2011-12. On her third point, we of course want to make sure that NDPBs still have the freedom to act, and we have said that they will—they will have the independence they had prior to this process. That issue was, I think, taken into account in drafting the 2010 Act, which the right hon. Lady will have supported as a member of the then Government. So those controls are in place.

Baroness Hodge of Barking Portrait Margaret Hodge
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On my second point, the freedom of NDPBs to spend reserves from moneys they themselves have raised was not dealt with under the 2010 Act, which I did indeed support. As a member of the then Government, I pursued that issue and did not get to a good end. I hope that the Minister will undertake to look at it, in order to give those NDPBs their freedom.

Mark Hoban Portrait Mr Hoban
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We will look at it, but incorporating NDPBs into the clear line of sight project so that their results are reported in estimates and departmental annual accounts is something that should be done, and the principle underlying these reforms is to do it in a way that does not compromise their status.