Debates between Lord Waldegrave of North Hill and Baroness Chapman of Darlington during the 2024 Parliament

Thu 23rd Jan 2025

Chagos Islands

Debate between Lord Waldegrave of North Hill and Baroness Chapman of Darlington
Thursday 23rd January 2025

(1 week ago)

Lords Chamber
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Baroness Chapman of Darlington Portrait Baroness Chapman of Darlington (Lab)
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I hope not. I do not see it as political bickering, actually; it is a legitimate debate. These are important decisions and I am very happy to be held to account for the decisions that we are taking. The noble Lord is right, however, to alert us to the plight of many small islands across the world that are suffering from the impact of climate change. That is why this Government have a commitment to doing everything we can to reduce our carbon emissions.

Lord Waldegrave of North Hill Portrait Lord Waldegrave of North Hill (Con)
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My Lords, does the Minister agree that the net result of the negotiations has been to introduce instability? The word is out to the Mauritian Government that if they go back to the original deal and ask for more money, they will get more money. This insecurity will be very damaging. If we now abandon the foolish deal that the Government have reached under instruction from President Trump, will we not look rather foolish and rather abject?

Baroness Chapman of Darlington Portrait Baroness Chapman of Darlington (Lab)
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No. Like the previous Government, we think that this situation needed to be resolved in a way that gave security for the future. We have a deal that will last at least 99 years. It is far better to deal with that ahead of any binding ruling, where the UK was likely to lose support, than to wait for a binding ruling and negotiate from a position that would have been far weaker.