Debates between Lord Reid of Cardowan and Lord Taylor of Holbeach during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Mon 21st Jan 2019
Trade Bill
Lords Chamber

Committee: 1st sitting (Hansarad): House of Lords

Trade Bill

Debate between Lord Reid of Cardowan and Lord Taylor of Holbeach
Committee: 1st sitting (Hansarad): House of Lords
Monday 21st January 2019

(5 years, 11 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Taylor of Holbeach Portrait Lord Taylor of Holbeach
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My Lords, I rise to respond to the amendment in the name of the noble Baroness the Leader of the Opposition and to subsequent speakers. I note what the noble Baroness, Lady Taylor, said about the roles of the usual channels and the Government, and the relationship between the two. I also note the comments of my noble friend Lord Strathclyde. However, I cannot allow the speech of the noble Lord, Lord Reid, about the Good Friday agreement, to go without comment. I have no hesitation in saying that what he reported to the House was completely untrue.

Lord Reid of Cardowan Portrait Lord Reid of Cardowan
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My Lords, I am not sure that it was parliamentary to accuse another noble Lord of putting an untruth before the House. I said that we read reports this morning. The noble Lord might check the Daily Mail or the Daily Telegraph, for instance. I may be mistaken, but I would be grateful if the noble Lord would withdraw his comment that what I said was an untruth.

Lord Taylor of Holbeach Portrait Lord Taylor of Holbeach
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All I said was that what the noble Lord reported was an untruth; he himself was not, perhaps, being untruthful. Those newspapers are not in my reading.

The House has heard the arguments made by the noble Baroness and subsequent speakers, and it will have to take the amendment she proposed at face value. However, it is difficult to understand why the House should agree to it. After all, we are shortly going to go into Committee, when all the arguments which have been expressed this afternoon will, no doubt, appear again in the form of amendments and in the debates that surround them. I can only agree with the comments about the Bill by my noble friend Lord Lansley.

The effect of the amendment is to prevent Report stage proceeding until a subjective condition has been fulfilled. I note that in recent weeks many noble Lords opposite have expressed their desire to continue with the Bill, apparently frustrated that the Committee was not scheduled to start earlier. Yet here is an amendment to delay the passage of the Bill. The oddest thing of all is that the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson, who is leading for the Opposition on the Bill, has tabled amendments covering the issues listed in the noble Baroness’s Motion. It seems pre-emptive of her to ask the House to reach such a conclusion now, before the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson, has even started to make his case.

Brexit: Negotiations

Debate between Lord Reid of Cardowan and Lord Taylor of Holbeach
Thursday 15th November 2018

(6 years, 1 month ago)

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Lord Taylor of Holbeach Portrait Lord Taylor of Holbeach
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The House will know that there is a limited amount of time. We ought to hear from the Liberal Democrat Back Benches.

Arrangement of Business

Debate between Lord Reid of Cardowan and Lord Taylor of Holbeach
Tuesday 17th April 2018

(6 years, 8 months ago)

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Lord Taylor of Holbeach Portrait Lord Taylor of Holbeach (Con)
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My Lords, I am conscious that we have Report stage on Bills today and tomorrow, and that Report on the European Union (Withdrawal) Bill, which starts tomorrow, will be stretching over the next few weeks. Noble Lords will have already noticed that, we have used today’s list to remind the House of the rules of debate for Report contained in the Companion. I particularly remind noble Lords of paragraph 8.138, which states:

“Arguments fully deployed either in Committee of the whole House or in Grand Committee should not be repeated at length on report”.


While I am on my feet, I thought this might be a convenient point to confirm our plans for the Summer, Conference and November Recesses. To save Members reaching for their diaries, a hard-copy notice is now available in the Printed Paper Office. The dates will also be listed in tomorrow’s edition of Forthcoming Business. As noble Lords would expect me to say, these dates are subject to the progress of business.

With that proviso, we will rise at the conclusion of our proceedings on Tuesday 24 July and return on Tuesday 4 September for our customary September sitting. We will rise at the end of business on Thursday 13 September and return from the conference season on Tuesday 9 October. We will also have the usual autumn long weekend, rising at the end of business on Tuesday 6 November and returning on Monday 12 November.

Lord Reid of Cardowan Portrait Lord Reid of Cardowan (Lab)
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As a point of order, I ask for clarification on the announcement. Does the caveat regarding the repetition of arguments already made at length apply to ministerial replies?

Lord Taylor of Holbeach Portrait Lord Taylor of Holbeach
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Noble Lords will expect a proper reply from the Minister and will, indeed, receive one.