Debates between Lord Porter of Spalding and Lord Palmer of Childs Hill during the 2015-2017 Parliament

Housing and Planning Bill

Debate between Lord Porter of Spalding and Lord Palmer of Childs Hill
Tuesday 22nd March 2016

(8 years, 8 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Palmer of Childs Hill Portrait Lord Palmer of Childs Hill
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Developers work by first applying for planning permission. We are saying that once they have the planning permission there has to be a period in which they start the work and then, being reasonable people, there is a period in which they have to complete that development. That was the seven years. It could be 10 years or whatever any of the Ministers want but I believe there has to be a dual requirement rather than the one the noble Lord suggests.

Lord Porter of Spalding Portrait Lord Porter of Spalding
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My Lords, the person the planning permission has been granted to might not necessarily be the one developing the site anyway, so to make the original grantee of the planning permission responsible for development is not practical, or probably legal. As has already been said, some sites will be a phased process so rather than a seven-year arbitrary deadline, developers should be working with local authorities to work out the phases of development and the proposed completion time on the basis of the phased development. If you were to grant somebody a site of 2,000 or 2,500 units, you certainly would not want them all being built within seven years. The way it is worded will work against some areas. I can appreciate that people should not be able to build up land banks without having any intention of bringing it forward, speculatively trying to increase profit on the basis of the land value itself, but the way this amendment is worded will have a detrimental impact on the communities where we try to implement it.

Lord Palmer of Childs Hill Portrait Lord Palmer of Childs Hill
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My Lords, the actual development has to take place with the original developer—but on the suggestion that the developer might change, which I think the noble Lord made, the planning permission goes with the site. Even if the developer changes, the restrictions or advantages are still there. The person who buys the site gets those benefits and restrictions with it.

Lord Porter of Spalding Portrait Lord Porter of Spalding
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I totally agree—the land is where the planning permission sits, but that is not what the noble Lord’s amendment says.