House of Lords (Hereditary Peers) Bill
Debate between Lord Newby and Lord GeddesMonday 10th March 2025
(1 month, 2 weeks ago)
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Lord Newby (LD)
My Lords, I am happy to debate the numbers, but I disagree that the majority of people who take a party Whip can legitimately not call themselves politicians. The Cross-Benchers are not politicians, although they are very political in many cases. Under my proposal, they are not being abolished anyway.
On the noble Lord, Lord True, I was intrigued by his reference to Lloyd George. Lloyd George does not come with a totally unblemished record when it comes to matters relating to the House of Lords.
As I said at the start, this amendment is to set up a process. It is not a blueprint. We on these Benches believe that this process should now be commenced. We believe that it is very long overdue, and we will return to this amendment on Report with that in view.
The Deputy Chairman of Committees (Lord Geddes) (Con)
To the best of my knowledge, we are presently debating Amendment 11A, an amendment to Amendment 11.