All 1 Debates between Lord Myners and Lord Bates

Mon 26th Jul 2010

Finance Bill

Debate between Lord Myners and Lord Bates
Monday 26th July 2010

(13 years, 9 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Bates Portrait Lord Bates
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That is a fair point but, in a sense, it does not really matter what the most distinguished economist in the room says about it or what the least distinguished economist in the room—me—says about it. Fitch’s preliminary assessment of the Budget was that,

“it sets out an ambitious deficit reduction path that, if delivered upon, will materially strengthen confidence in UK public finances and its ‘AAA’ status … Taken together, the specific measures announced today are substantial and enhance confidence in the outlook for UK public finances”.

Moody’s Investors Services has said that the UK Budget is “supportive” of the country’s AAA rating. There is that element of international confidence—

Lord Myners Portrait Lord Myners
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I thank the noble Lord for allowing me to intervene. Is he quoting from the same credit rating agencies that played such a horrible part in the collapse of the banking system through their lack of foresight?

Lord Bates Portrait Lord Bates
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I am quoting from the same rating agencies that rate government debt and sovereign debt around the world. That is what results in the prices of those debts being traded on the international money markets. The noble Lord, Lord Myners, knows better than anyone about the global flows of international finance. The rating levels are crucial to this, as we see when we look at the situation in Ireland. To stretch the small business analogy to its absolute limits, you can say that international confidence in the Government’s resolution to get to grips with the deficit is analogous to what many companies will have—