Debates between Lord Murphy of Torfaen and Lord Hanson of Flint during the 2010-2015 Parliament

West Lothian Question

Debate between Lord Murphy of Torfaen and Lord Hanson of Flint
Tuesday 29th March 2011

(13 years, 8 months ago)

Westminster Hall
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Lord Murphy of Torfaen Portrait Paul Murphy
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The whole business of the devolution settlement is that devolved areas can decide what they spend their money on. It could equally be argued, incidentally, if one lived in north-east England, the midlands or the north-west, and if one were to divide England into regions, that certain regions do better than others. That is a matter not for today’s debate, but for future financial policy. I merely say that when the Barnett formula is applied to Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, it is applied on the basis of whether spending in England goes up or down.

Lord Hanson of Flint Portrait Mr David Hanson (Delyn) (Lab)
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May I add a further complication to my right hon. Friend’s argument? He knows that I represent a Welsh border constituency. One third of my constituents use the Countess of Chester hospital in England; 400 of my constituents work at Vauxhall in Ellesmere Port, which is supported by the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills; Crewe station and the airports at Manchester and Liverpool serve my constituency; constituents go to Chester university and West Cheshire college. Am I not to have a vote or a voice on those things on behalf of my constituents?

Lord Murphy of Torfaen Portrait Paul Murphy
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My right hon. Friend wants a vote and will get it. He eloquently expressed my next point, which I will not make because he made it better than I could.