All 2 Debates between Lord Keen of Elie and Lord Grabiner

Worboys Case and the Parole Board

Debate between Lord Keen of Elie and Lord Grabiner
Wednesday 28th March 2018

(6 years, 8 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Keen of Elie Portrait Lord Keen of Elie
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I entirely accept the observations of the noble Lord.

Lord Grabiner Portrait Lord Grabiner (CB)
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We have focused attention—quite properly, in my view—on the performance of the Parole Board, but there is a separate and rather important aspect of this very shocking case. As I understand it, the CPS had available to it a good deal of material which was not then the subject of prosecution. That may have had a real impact on the sentence that was ultimately imposed upon Worboys; in fact, I am sure that it did. Can the Minister assure us that the performance of the CPS in this story and in future possible prosecutions and investigations will be carefully looked at? If you do not charge what you should charge, you often end up with the wrong result.

Lord Keen of Elie Portrait Lord Keen of Elie
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I note the observations of the noble Lord. Clearly, the role of the CPS in the conduct of the prosecution of Worboys is a matter of some concern. The CPS takes these decisions independently and clearly, that independence has to be respected. Worboys was the subject of an IPP sentence, albeit one that was liable to open the door to review before the Parole Board. I cannot give an undertaking at this time of any formal inquiry into the role of the CPS with regard to the original prosecution decisions that were taken, but I note what the noble Lord has said.

Investigatory Powers Bill

Debate between Lord Keen of Elie and Lord Grabiner
Wednesday 13th July 2016

(8 years, 5 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Thomas of Gresford Portrait Lord Thomas of Gresford
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But not the fact that he was proposing to escape charges of spying by going to another country. Was there something iniquitous about our conversation?

Lord Grabiner Portrait Lord Grabiner (Non-Afl)
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There probably was because no solicitor was engaged. So privilege was not attracted at all.

Lord Keen of Elie Portrait Lord Keen of Elie
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The noble Lord makes a good point, and it may be that the noble Lord, Lord Thomas, wishes to refer himself to the Bar Standards Board. However, I understand that the rules have changed since then.