Horizon Europe

Lord Johnson of Marylebone Excerpts

Tuesday 8th October 2024 Lords Chamber

[Lord Vallance of Balham (Lab)]

There are, of course, a number of visa programmes—it is a points-based system—including the global talent visa and the skilled worker visa. We know that the number of applications for the global talent visa increased by about 16% between 2023 and 2024, so that we had 8,000 or so in 2024. It is important that the costs of those, including the immigration health surcharge, can be put on to the grants. The noble Lord is absolutely right that it is also important that it is as easy as possible to get these things done. We rely, and always have relied, in this country on immigration of talented scientists and exchange of people, and I hope that that will continue and be as easy as possible.

[Lord Johnson of Marylebone (Con)]

My Lords, rejoining Horizon was a no-brainer. Will the Government reassess their position on Erasmus, a student mobility scheme that polls suggest has very wide public backing?

[Lord Vallance of Balham (Lab)]

I am very glad indeed that the noble Lord thinks it was a no-brainer; that was not always the situation when trying to get that through. Erasmus, of course, was an important scheme that it was not possible to reach an agreement on. Consequently, it is important that universities can attract the best people through other means. The Turing scheme that was put in place in 2021 provides an opportunity for exchange; in the last round, the number of applications was up from 520 in 2022 to 619 in 2023, and more than 40,000 pupils and students were able to do exchange programmes, 60% of whom came from a disadvantaged background. The proposal at the moment is to continue with that scheme.

Horizon Europe

Lord Johnson of Marylebone Excerpts

Tuesday 30th January 2024 Lords Chamber

[Viscount Camrose (Con)]

I thank the noble Baroness for her questions and will try to cover as much of the material as possible. First, I am pleased to say that we look forward to welcoming Commissioner Ivanova to the UK the week after next, when we will discuss many of these matters. In fact, I will be participating the following week at a ministerial meeting on Horizon in Brussels. It is historically exceptional for associate countries to attend at ministerial level, so I think it demonstrates good will on all sides. Meanwhile, we are pursuing a wide programme of activities to maximise participation. That includes supporting SMEs and others who would not traditionally have worked with Horizon, as well as a campaign launched yesterday and ministerial engagement. We remain optimistic, but, as I have said in this House, the damage has been done by protracted absence.

[Lord Johnson of Marylebone (Con)]

My Lords, there are seven years of uncertainty to recover from, but better late than never. I strongly welcome the Government’s pump-priming on behalf of applicants to Horizon Europe. In assessing the value for money of the programme, how important do the Government think it is that Switzerland also rejoins, and what efforts are they making to support Bern in that objective?

[Viscount Camrose (Con)]

A range of other countries, as the noble Lord said, are also joining on an associate basis; Horizon is the largest programme of its type anywhere in the world. The total value of the programme is £80 billion over two years, and we consider that rejoining represents a significant opportunity for us following the uncertainty of our period of non-association. As to engagement with Bern, I am afraid that I do not have an answer for the noble Lord, but I will look into it; it sounds like a valuable contribution we could make.