Badgers Debate
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(12 years, 10 months ago)
Lords Chamber Lord Hoyle
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Lord Hoyle 
        
    
        
    
        
To ask Her Majesty’s Government what further plans they have to cull badgers.
 The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Lord De Mauley)
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Lord De Mauley) 
        
    
        
    
        My Lords, badger culling is part of a package of measures to tackle bovine TB. The policy will be piloted, initially in two areas, during the summer of 2013 to confirm our assumptions about the effectiveness, humaneness and safety of controlled shooting. An independent panel of experts will oversee and evaluate the monitoring of the pilots and report back to government; only then will Ministers decide whether the policy should be rolled out more widely.
 Lord Hoyle
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Lord Hoyle 
        
    
        
    
        I thank the Minister for his reply. However, scientific evidence conducted over 10 years says that the killing of badgers makes hardly any difference—indeed, no difference—and in fact eminent scientists say that it makes it worse. In view of that, will he now follow the Welsh Assembly and decide on a policy of vaccination rather than elimination?
 Lord De Mauley
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Lord De Mauley 
        
    
        
    
        My Lords, the noble Lord and I will disagree on the science. Ultimately, of course, we want to be able to use vaccination both for cattle and for badgers, and we are investing in this option through extensive research and development. However, there are practical difficulties with the injectable badger vaccine, which the noble Lord refers to as being used in Wales and which right now is the only available option. The difficulties involved include the need for each badger to be trapped and the fact that vaccination does not appear to cure already infected badgers, along with the cost and the fact that it has to be repeated every year.