Debates between Lord Griffiths of Burry Port and Lord Hain during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Wed 21st Mar 2018
European Union (Withdrawal) Bill
Lords Chamber

Committee: 9th sitting (Hansard - continued): House of Lords

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill

Debate between Lord Griffiths of Burry Port and Lord Hain
Lord Griffiths of Burry Port Portrait Lord Griffiths of Burry Port
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I beg your pardon. I think the mistake is evidence of the fact that I am not qualified to answer that particular part of the noble Lord’s question.

Lord Hain Portrait Lord Hain (Lab)
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With due respect to the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, not for the first time he is wrong about this. Welsh Ministers, for example, and Scottish Ministers often attend the Council of Ministers with the permission of our own UK Government to make sure that their voice is heard. It has been done on a collaborative basis and is nothing to do with his anti-Europeanism: it is actually about how devolution has worked.

Lord Griffiths of Burry Port Portrait Lord Griffiths of Burry Port
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I am delighted to receive that help from behind me, and also to hear from alongside me that, when my noble friend used to attend such meetings, he did not feel part of the furniture or not very welcome. Perhaps that in some way goes towards an answer.