Debates between Lord Faulks and Lord Sharpe of Epsom during the 2019-2024 Parliament

National Crime Agency: Fraud and Economic Crime

Debate between Lord Faulks and Lord Sharpe of Epsom
Monday 11th September 2023

(10 months, 2 weeks ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Faulks Portrait Lord Faulks (Non-Afl)
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My Lords, the Minister will know well that one of the themes that emerged during our debates on the Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency Bill was the inequality of bargaining power that often existed between the agencies that have to pursue fraudsters and those fraudsters, who were often heavily lawyered-up to enable them to resist any applications. One of the initiatives brought forward by this Government under the Criminal Finances Act was unexplained wealth orders. Can the Minister explain why they have been used on so few occasions? Is it because of lack of resources? Is it because of the risk on costs? What other explanation is there for such a powerful potential weapon not being utilised?

Lord Sharpe of Epsom Portrait Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Con)
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The noble Lord will be aware, from other conversations that we have been having around the various aspects of the Bill that will go through the House this afternoon, that the agencies tell us they are appropriately resourced. I cannot account for the small number of UWOs that have been issued, but I will continue to keep it under review and report to the noble Lord.

Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency

Debate between Lord Faulks and Lord Sharpe of Epsom
Lord Faulks Portrait Lord Faulks (Non-Afl)
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Before the noble Lord sits down, during the passage of the first economic crime Bill, when the question of sanctions was discussed, much reference was made to the very lengthy Explanatory Notes which accompanied that Bill—the longest I have ever seen—particularly as regards the human rights implications of depriving people of their assets in the sort of way that the noble Lord, Lord Alton, envisages in his amendment, in particular A1P1 of the European convention and various other rights. Is it part of the Government’s position that the sort of suggestions made in this amendment are in fact stymied or may be frustrated by the provisions of the European convention and the Human Rights Act?

Lord Sharpe of Epsom Portrait Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Con)
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The noble Lord has strayed into an area with which I am not familiar. I shall have to write to him.