Debates between Lord Faulks and Lord Campbell-Savours during the 2015-2017 Parliament

Sexual Offences: False Accusations

Debate between Lord Faulks and Lord Campbell-Savours
Thursday 10th March 2016

(8 years, 9 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Campbell-Savours Portrait Lord Campbell-Savours
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To ask Her Majesty’s Government whether they intend to review the law concerning those making false accusations in relation to sexual offences.

Lord Faulks Portrait The Minister of State, Ministry of Justice (Lord Faulks) (Con)
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My Lords, there are no plans to review the law in this area. It is a very serious matter to make a false allegation relating to a sexual offence and there are strong sanctions against those who do.

Lord Campbell-Savours Portrait Lord Campbell-Savours (Lab)
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My Lords, should we not now consider the reform of the law which allows someone like this man, Nick, who, hiding behind a wall of anonymity, makes allegations of a sexual nature against reputable public figures such as Lord Bramall, the late Lord Brittan and the late Mr Edward Heath, the former Prime Minister, and others, with not a shred of forensic or corroborative evidence whatever? It is simply unjust. Is it not now time that the whole issue of anonymity for the accused, and in particular the defence of the falsely accused, was put back on the national agenda and considered here in Parliament?

Lord Faulks Portrait Lord Faulks
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My Lords, I am sure that the noble Lord will accept that this is a very delicate issue. Parliament in 1976 decided that there should be anonymity both for complainant and for defendant. Parliament then abolished that in 1988. In 2010, the coalition Government considered the matter and decided, in balancing the various public interests, not to take further action. The noble Lord refers to a well-known case, and of course legitimate criticisms can be made about the handling of that matter, although we must allow the police some operational freedom. But I can say that Sir Richard Henriques, a retired High Court judge, is looking into the matter, an IPCC complaint has been made, and in due course the Government will respond to any recommendations or publications on that matter. But one must remember how difficult it is to make these allegations, and while I entirely accept what he says about those people in high places, of course no one is above the law.

Ministerial Code

Debate between Lord Faulks and Lord Campbell-Savours
Tuesday 3rd November 2015

(9 years, 1 month ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Faulks Portrait Lord Faulks
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Justice Scalia is an originalist on the American Supreme Court and has a particular view of America’s position. Our position is that all Ministers are obliged to abide by the law, including, in so far as it is ascertainable, international law in this country.

Lord Campbell-Savours Portrait Lord Campbell-Savours (Lab)
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Why can the Government not transfer responsibility for carrying out investigations into the conduct of Ministers to the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards in the House of Commons and the House of Lords Commissioner for Standards in the case of Lords Ministers? Surely that would restore some confidence in the system, which has been discredited by recent cases.

Lord Faulks Portrait Lord Faulks
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The Ministerial Code sets out clearly what the Prime Minister expects of his Ministers. If they depart from that code, it is evident that they have departed from it and there are modes of dealing with that. I take the noble Lord’s suggestion, but at the moment the situation seems to be satisfactorily dealt with.