Covid-19: Rise of Positive Tests Debate

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Department: Department of Health and Social Care

Covid-19: Rise of Positive Tests

Lord Dobbs Excerpts
Wednesday 9th September 2020

(3 years, 11 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Bethell Portrait Lord Bethell (Con)
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I advise the noble and right reverend Lord that those figures are published on the PHE website. I would be glad to send him an email with the link.

Lord Dobbs Portrait Lord Dobbs (Con) [V]
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My Lords, what I am about to ask implies no criticism, because this is such a difficult question. The increase in restrictions on social gatherings that have just been announced will be so difficult to enforce. Is there at least a case for us to consider focusing more on mortality rates rather than simply on infection rates, and finding better ways of identifying and protecting the truly vulnerable, while allowing the rest of society to get on sensibly with their lives as best they can in the circumstances, before the costs of trying to protect everyone become both economically and politically unsustainable?

Lord Bethell Portrait Lord Bethell (Con)
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My noble friend is entirely right to say that the measures that the Prime Minister will describe will impose a huge burden on the whole country. However, he alludes to a hope that I am afraid cannot be borne out in practice, because we have seen, in country after country, that after prevalence follows hospitalisation and mortality, as night follows day. There is an immediate and strong connection between the rise of mortality and the rate of prevalence in the country as a whole. Children see their parents, and parents see the grandparents, so if we really want to protect all those in society, we have to lean into the disease at every level. In addition, it is emerging that the long-term effects of Covid on young people can be profound. Even those with relatively low or asymptomatic reactions to the disease can be affected by fatigue, loss of memory, breathing difficulties and other long-term effects. It is for those reasons that I ask all young people to ensure that they take every step to avoid catching this disease.