All 6 Debates between Lord De Mauley and Lord Elystan-Morgan

Winter Floods

Debate between Lord De Mauley and Lord Elystan-Morgan
Thursday 6th February 2014

(10 years, 10 months ago)

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Lord De Mauley Portrait Lord De Mauley
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I share my noble friend’s concerns absolutely.

Lord Elystan-Morgan Portrait Lord Elystan-Morgan (CB)
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My Lords, I would like to raise a constitutional point relating to Wales in the context of these storms. Some weeks ago, a number of noble Lords, including myself, were told by the noble Baroness, the Minister, that essentially, responsibility for these matters had been devolved to the Welsh Assembly. I appreciate that responsibility for marine structures, coastal defences and so on has no doubt been transferred. On the other hand, under the 20 headings that I included in the schedules to the Government of Wales Act 2006, there is great vagueness. There is nothing at all to say whether responsibility for storm damage or for substantial havoc caused by nature has ever been transferred. I would be most grateful if the Government would publish some sort of reasoned opinion in relation to the matter. With regard to the Bellwin proposals, I remember 30 years ago, soon after I came to this House, how sterling they were. Is Wales eligible to profit from such a fund—and, if so, to what extent?

Lord De Mauley Portrait Lord De Mauley
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The noble Lord has a habit of bowling fast constitutional balls. Of course, coastal regions right across the United Kingdom, including in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, have been affected by flooding and severe weather conditions. Responsibility for flood management is, as he suspects, devolved to the Welsh Assembly, the Scottish Parliament and the Northern Ireland Assembly. It is for those bodies and their agencies to determine how best to allocate resources to support affected areas.

Bovine Tuberculosis

Debate between Lord De Mauley and Lord Elystan-Morgan
Tuesday 26th November 2013

(11 years ago)

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Lord De Mauley Portrait Lord De Mauley
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I can confirm to my noble friend that we are indeed continuing research into AI.

Lord Elystan-Morgan Portrait Lord Elystan-Morgan (CB)
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The Minister may well recall some weeks ago, in reply to a supplementary question which I raised, that I was told that about 50% of bovine tuberculosis was attributable to badgers and about 50% to other sources. Can the Minister tell the House roughly, in the last financial year or in any other meaningful period, how much money from public sources was spent in relation to non-badger-related bovine tuberculosis?

Lord De Mauley Portrait Lord De Mauley
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My Lords, perhaps I should clarify the answer I gave to the noble Lord. Research by Professor Christl Donnelly indicates that up to 50% of infections in the high-incidence area are due to badgers. Bovine TB can affect a wide range of species, including pigs, sheep, goats and camelids; it can affect wildlife—for example, badgers and wild deer—and pets, including cats and dogs, and of course humans. The key thing, however, is that in cattle and badgers the infection is self-sustaining. It is thought that most other species generally only act as spillover hosts.

Badgers

Debate between Lord De Mauley and Lord Elystan-Morgan
Wednesday 9th October 2013

(11 years, 2 months ago)

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Lord De Mauley Portrait Lord De Mauley
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No, my Lords, I am aware of no such evidence. Indeed, as I said just now, the Chief Veterinary Officer endorses that what has happened so far will lead to a reduction in the disease in cattle, and that any more we can do will further contribute to a reduction.

Lord Elystan-Morgan Portrait Lord Elystan-Morgan (CB)
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My Lords, I accept that badger-borne bovine TB is the despair of the agricultural industry, but has the ministry ever made any calculation of how much bovine TB is non badger-borne? If it has not, how can it possibly indulge in detailed experiments, including culling, unless this information is to hand?

Lord De Mauley Portrait Lord De Mauley
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I am grateful for that question because it gives me the opportunity to say that work by Professor Crystl Donnelly has shown that as much as 50% of the incidence of TB in high-risk areas can be attributed to badgers.

Horsemeat and Food Fraud

Debate between Lord De Mauley and Lord Elystan-Morgan
Monday 11th February 2013

(11 years, 10 months ago)

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Lord De Mauley Portrait Lord De Mauley
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I thank my noble friend and point out to her that the occasion of which she speaks occurred no less than 14 years before I arrived in your Lordships’ House.

Lord Elystan-Morgan Portrait Lord Elystan-Morgan
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My Lords, following the point made by the noble Lord, Lord Clark, does the Minister agree that phenylbutazone is an active carcinogenic agent? If within the next two weeks the FSA is satisfied that there is evidence of such contaminated horsemeat having come into the United Kingdom or, indeed, any other meat that is contaminated by veterinary processes in the way described by the noble Lord, will the Secretary of State ban forthwith all horsemeat products coming to our shores?

Lord De Mauley Portrait Lord De Mauley
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My Lords, I share the seriousness with which the noble Lord takes the issue of bute. I have spoken about it at some length. He will know that imposing a ban is no small matter. Indeed, the onus is on the exporting member state to ensure that meat produced on its territory meets animal and public health requirements laid down in EU legislation. We have legislation in place to provide for a ban on imports where there are grounds for suspecting a serious threat to public or animal health. I hope that satisfies the noble Lord.

FSA Investigation into LIBOR

Debate between Lord De Mauley and Lord Elystan-Morgan
Monday 2nd July 2012

(12 years, 5 months ago)

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Lord De Mauley Portrait Lord De Mauley
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My Lords, there is plenty of time. Perhaps we can hear from the Cross Benches and then from my noble friend.

Lord Elystan-Morgan Portrait Lord Elystan-Morgan
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My Lords, if I may, I will make a point in support of the very pertinent submission made by the noble Baroness, Lady Kramer. This is not a question of who should prosecute or who can prosecute. A simple, straightforward criminal offence was created in Section 397 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000; I checked it. That provision deals with a false statement or declaration that is made deliberately or misleadingly and that distorts a market. It is an offence that is punishable on indictment with a maximum of two years’ imprisonment. There would seem to be ample prima facie evidence that such an offence has been committed. In the circumstances, bearing in mind the damage done and the ruthlessness with which such practices were conducted, is there any reason why persons responsible should not stand trial?

Barnett Formula

Debate between Lord De Mauley and Lord Elystan-Morgan
Monday 7th June 2010

(14 years, 6 months ago)

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Lord Elystan-Morgan Portrait Lord Elystan-Morgan
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My Lords, is it not the case that the whole economic and financial landscape has changed so fundamentally over the past 30 years that a rough and ready yardstick of calculation, as it was then, now becomes something utterly inequitable; and that if there is no radical change, parts of the United Kingdom, such as the land and nation of Wales, will suffer the perpetuation of this inequity? Is it therefore a matter not of waiting for events to happen but of radically tackling a massive injustice?

Lord De Mauley Portrait Lord De Mauley
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My Lords, the Government hear what the noble Lord and other noble Lords say. However, while we recognise the concerns expressed by, for example, the Holtham commission, as I said, the priority must at the moment be to tackle the deficit.