Welfare Reform Bill

Lord De Mauley Excerpts

Monday 21st November 2011 Grand Committee

Amendment 99ZA withdrawn.

[Lord De Mauley]

My Lords, may I suggest that this would be an appropriate moment to take a 10-minute break?

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In summary, I return to two points. The universal system has to work for people in work in, trying to manage their position in work, and those who may be persistently out of work for good reason or not. It has to manage both communities. Secondly, as the noble Lord, Lord Kirkwood, said, on the drafting of the current Clause 93: if one is to import into the welfare system a measure of itself, the purpose of which is simply to define a concept of fairness between those in work and those out of work, then either Clause 93 needs amending or Parliament has to define those exemptions to that cap which sustain fairness and proportionality.

[Lord De Mauley]

My Lords, I apologise for intervening at this stage but it appears that this debate is going to take a few more minutes, so I beg to move that the debate on Amendment 99ZB be adjourned.

Motion agreed.

[Lord De Mauley]

On that basis, perhaps I may suggest that the Committee be adjourned until Wednesday at 3.45 pm.

Committee adjourned at 7.33 pm.