Update to Parliament

Debate between Lord Clark of Windermere and Baroness Evans of Bowes Park

Wednesday 25th September 2019 Lords Chamber

[Baroness Evans of Bowes Park]

The Supreme Court looked at the evidence before it and at the Government’s case and unfortunately the judgment went against the Government. The Supreme Court has made its decision; the legal position is now clear. We have accepted that judgment and we accept that we have lost the case.

[Lord Clark of Windermere (Lab)]

My Lords, I had not intended to participate. I entered Parliament at the same time as the noble Lord, Lord Cormack, and have heard hundreds of Statements, but I have to say that this Statement is the most disgraceful that I have ever heard. It is not the disgrace or the politics that concern me, but that it is a dangerous Statement—incredibly dangerous. We are going through a period where democracy in Britain is being challenged in a way that it has not been since the 1930s. I pick that date quite deliberately.

As we have already heard today, MPs are under severe threat. I loved doing that job, but I am very glad that I am not an elected Member of Parliament these days. One Member has already been murdered and another was not only threatened but action was planned for her murder. The person perpetrating, or about to perpetrate, that crime ended up in court and was given a prison sentence. There are other cases that we do not know or talk about.

My point—and I would be very grateful if the noble Baroness would pass it on to the Cabinet; I am sure she will—is that we must be very careful with the words that we use if we are not going to enflame the situation in a nation that is almost split in half. As the right reverend Prelate the Bishop of Durham has already said, we all need to approach this with humility and try to be positive in finding our way forward.

[Baroness Evans of Bowes Park]

The noble Lord makes a powerful point and does so extremely well. It will certainly be reflected on. I have already made a commitment to the House that I will pass on to my Cabinet colleagues the views of this House and the concerns that have been raised.

Higher Education: Part-Time Students

Debate between Lord Clark of Windermere and Baroness Evans of Bowes Park

Wednesday 11th November 2015 Lords Chamber

[Baroness Evans of Bowes Park]

I am sure the noble Baroness quite understands that I cannot pre-empt the outcome of the spending review.

[Lord Clark of Windermere (Lab)]

Can the Minister give us some indication of how many students are currently undertaking the highest level of apprenticeship —are actually on a course?

[Baroness Evans of Bowes Park]

I am afraid that I do not have those exact figures to hand, but I am happy to write to the noble Lord.