Debates between Lord Cameron of Dillington and Lord Callanan during the 2019-2024 Parliament

Wed 6th Mar 2024
Mon 22nd Mar 2021

Heat Pumps

Debate between Lord Cameron of Dillington and Lord Callanan
Wednesday 6th March 2024

(9 months, 1 week ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Callanan Portrait Lord Callanan (Con)
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I thank my noble friend for that question; I did see that article and I completely agree with her that it was very good investigative journalism. I am supportive of a sensible debate on competing technologies, but planting misleading and false stories about heat pumps to negatively affect public support for the technologies is, frankly, a disgrace, and the big boiler manufacturers that fund the EUA should be ashamed of themselves.

Lord Cameron of Dillington Portrait Lord Cameron of Dillington (CB)
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My Lords, the Minister will be aware that if heat pumps became universally used as a primary source of heat in rural Britain, the electricity supply to many villages and market towns would crash. That is before they start using electric cars en masse. What are the Government going to do to ensure that the national grid will be able to provide an adequate supply of power across all of Britain?

Lord Callanan Portrait Lord Callanan (Con)
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The noble Lord is right; we will require a massive upgrading of the national grid. That is proceeding and we have plans in place for it. Ofgem has authorised tens of billions of pounds-worth of expenditure to upgrade the grid. This is a transition; we gradually need to move away from gas supplies and gas boilers, and on to electrification of heat and electric vehicles. It will happen over time, but it is happening.

Heat Pumps

Debate between Lord Cameron of Dillington and Lord Callanan
Monday 22nd March 2021

(3 years, 8 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Callanan Portrait Lord Callanan (Con)
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My noble friend well reflects my correspondence—I am receiving a lot of letters on this important issue at the moment. A call for evidence was issued in 2018 on how further to improve EPC accuracy and reliability and how these changes can be implemented. As my noble friend may be aware, the Government have published an EPC action plan detailing a series of actions that we can take to improve EPCs.

Lord Cameron of Dillington Portrait Lord Cameron of Dillington (CB) [V]
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My Lords, is the Minister aware that if all our demand for heat as a nation goes electric, at peak heat requirement we will need five times the current peak electricity generating capacity, and that does not include any extra demand for electric cars and transport? What will the Government do to ensure that we have the correct and renewable generating capacity to cater for this revolution?