Debates between Lord Bruce of Bennachie and Alistair Carmichael during the 2010-2015 Parliament

Scotland within the UK

Debate between Lord Bruce of Bennachie and Alistair Carmichael
Monday 13th October 2014

(10 years, 1 month ago)

Commons Chamber
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Alistair Carmichael Portrait Mr Carmichael
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On the hon. Gentleman’s latter point, I think I have already made that clear. I very much hope that once we have done this piece of work, we will in Scotland at last be able to move on to using the powers of the Parliament rather than just talking about them.

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Alistair Carmichael Portrait Mr Carmichael
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That remains the position of my party.

Lord Bruce of Bennachie Portrait Sir Malcolm Bruce (Gordon) (LD)
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May I first welcome my right hon. Friend’s Command Paper? As somebody who led our party in the constitutional convention, I welcome the fact that the Scottish Parliament will now get proper tax-raising powers. Does he agree that anything more than 50% looks a lot like home rule and a shared partnership? To those who want devolution within England, may I say, “You have our support, but it is quite difficult to support something that is unclear”? We need a constitutional convention. I suggest that devolution has in every case been accompanied by electoral reform and proportionality, and that should also be a condition in England.

Alistair Carmichael Portrait Mr Carmichael
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It is an important point that devolution has in every case been accompanied by electoral reform, and that institutions to which power is devolved are always elected proportionately. I cannot add a great deal to my answer to the right hon. Member for Southampton, Itchen (Mr Denham) on the need to build consensus in whichever way people in England choose. In Scotland, we have done it in a way that has worked for us twice, and will I believe now work for us a third time. It could work for people in England, but it is for them to make up their own minds about that.

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Debate between Lord Bruce of Bennachie and Alistair Carmichael
Wednesday 7th May 2014

(10 years, 6 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Alistair Carmichael Portrait Mr Carmichael
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Both Governments agreed in the Edinburgh agreement that there would be no question of pre-negotiation. That was a sensible situation and I am astonished that the hon. Gentleman now seeks to walk away from it.

Lord Bruce of Bennachie Portrait Sir Malcolm Bruce (Gordon) (LD)
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Does the Secretary of State agree that the Bank of England is not an asset to be shared but an institution that belongs to the United Kingdom which Scotland chooses to leave? Does he also agree that it is an extraordinary kind of independence where one wants to hand over control of one’s fiscal and monetary policy to a foreign bank?

Alistair Carmichael Portrait Mr Carmichael
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My right hon. Friend puts it perfectly. The difference between an asset and an institution is not a difficult one to understand, but the Scottish nationalists do seem to struggle with it.

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Debate between Lord Bruce of Bennachie and Alistair Carmichael
Wednesday 6th November 2013

(11 years ago)

Commons Chamber
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Alistair Carmichael Portrait Mr Carmichael
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If this privatisation was a threat to rural Scotland I would not support it. This is a privatisation born not from ideology but from necessity. Without it, the real threat would be Royal Mail losing business hand over fist, as it has since his Government liberalised the letter-post market.

Lord Bruce of Bennachie Portrait Sir Malcolm Bruce (Gordon) (LD)
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Does my right hon. Friend agree that the privatised Royal Mail, free from state aid restrictions and competition rules, offers the best opportunity of promoting the last-mile delivery service and securing the jobs of our dedicated local posties?

Alistair Carmichael Portrait Mr Carmichael
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My right hon. Friend has a rural constituency that I know well. The points that he makes are very well made. This was necessary to save the universal service and, for the first time, legislation privatising Royal Mail brought with it meaningful protections for that universal service.