Debates between Lord Adonis and Lord Framlingham during the 2015-2017 Parliament

Thu 12th Jan 2017
High Speed Rail (London–West Midlands) Bill
Grand Committee

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High Speed Rail (London–West Midlands) Bill

Debate between Lord Adonis and Lord Framlingham
Committee: 2nd sitting (Hansard): House of Lords
Thursday 12th January 2017

(7 years, 11 months ago)

Grand Committee
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Lord Framlingham Portrait Lord Framlingham
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My Lords, I rise briefly to disagree with the noble Lord, Lord Adonis, and to support what the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, is trying to say. This is a long and complicated process and however far in advance one talks about timetables, surely there is little point in building something if it will not deliver what one wants at the end of the day. One must look at the end as well as the beginning to make sure that one gets the system right.

Lord Adonis Portrait Lord Adonis
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My Lords, just to be clear, the illustrative timetables have been published already and, indeed, have been a part of the business case. What my noble friend’s amendment refers to is a comprehensive and detailed working timetable, which, as I say, will greatly build up the expectations of those who will benefit and lead to big and controversial campaigns by those who will not. In some areas, particularly with regard to freight trains, I am assuming that they would not feature in any event.

Lord Framlingham Portrait Lord Framlingham
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I hate to labour the point. I can understand why detailed timetables would not be wanted, but surely identifying possible bottlenecks and flaws well in advance is absolutely essential.