Debates between Earl of Courtown and Lord Bishop of Oxford during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Development Aid: Pakistan

Debate between Earl of Courtown and Lord Bishop of Oxford
Wednesday 2nd October 2019

(4 years, 7 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Bishop of Oxford Portrait Lord Harries of Pentregarth
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To ask Her Majesty’s Government whether they will take steps to ensure that the United Kingdom’s development aid supports the most vulnerable minorities, particularly in Pakistan.

Earl of Courtown Portrait The Earl of Courtown (Con)
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My Lords, UK aid prioritises the most vulnerable, excluded and disadvantaged, including those caught in crises and those most at risk of violence and discrimination. Promoting tolerance and inclusion is a core principle across our Pakistan programme and we also have programmes specifically supporting minorities. We regularly raise the needs of minority communities with the Government of Pakistan.

Lord Bishop of Oxford Portrait Lord Harries of Pentregarth (CB)
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I thank the Minister for his reply, particularly for saying that DfID focuses on the most vulnerable, but in Pakistan this is simply not happening. There are communities there which are twice distinguished by their poverty; first, on religious grounds, as either Hindus or Christians; secondly, because they are Dalits. Of course, if they are women, they are discriminated against on a third ground. Is it not possible for DfID to disaggregate its aid in order to identify, focus on and target such minorities?

Earl of Courtown Portrait The Earl of Courtown
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My Lords, the noble and right reverend Lord makes a very good point about ensuring that we target aid to the people who need it. DfID Pakistan continues to review its support to poor and marginalised people in Pakistan and we aim to better disaggregate our results data in future. We recently had some success in collecting more and better-quality data on people with disabilities in Pakistan, and this also picked up other minorities. We have learned from that and will build on it to focus our energy on collecting data from these other groups.