All 2 Debates between Earl Cathcart and Lord Beecham

Thu 7th Jul 2011
Thu 30th Jun 2011

Localism Bill

Debate between Earl Cathcart and Lord Beecham
Thursday 7th July 2011

(13 years, 3 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Earl Cathcart Portrait Earl Cathcart
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The noble Lord, Lord Beecham, has twice raised an interesting point about county councils having care homes within a district and whether they should be involved. Could not the county council nominate that asset as an asset of community value? Then it would be registered with the district and, if something happened to it, the county council could make an offer to bid, or whatever it wanted to do. Would that not be the answer?

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That is what I suggested under a previous amendment, but I think the whole area needs looking at.

Localism Bill

Debate between Earl Cathcart and Lord Beecham
Thursday 30th June 2011

(13 years, 4 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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My Lords, I endorse most of what the noble Lord has suggested. In particular I entirely concur with his view that the provision for council members to requisition a referendum is apt to lead to mischief and is unnecessary. It is open to the whole council to choose to have a referendum if it wishes. Perhaps the Minister would confirm that it would even be the case in a mayoral council, that the council as a whole could pass a resolution for a referendum. However, to extend that principle to individual members is unnecessary and likely to be a source of considerable nuisance as well as expense. I hope that the Minister will feel, on reflection, that that particular part of the Bill can be safely abandoned without prejudice to the rights of the public at large.

Earl Cathcart Portrait Earl Cathcart
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My Lords, I may have misunderstood, but regarding this business about local councils calling for referendums, I thought the Minister said previously that,

“following a request from a member, a referendum may not be held unless the full council has resolved that it be held”.—[Official Report, 28/6/11; col. 1746.]

I therefore thought that we had moved on from that argument.