Debates between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead during the 2017-2019 Parliament

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G20 and Leadership of EU Institutions

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Wednesday 3rd July 2019

(5 years, 4 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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I think what is important for the United Kingdom is that we continue to take this strong position in relation to the activities of Russia. I have referenced a number of those already; I have not yet referenced in response to questions the actions that Russia took in Ukraine, which are matters that I also raised with President Putin.

It is important to look at the actions that the United States has taken. After the attack that took place in Salisbury, it expelled about 60 Russian officials. We saw a significant and unprecedented international response, but in fact the largest number of expulsions took place from the United States. Its actions, I think, have been important in this.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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The Prime Minister said that international development expenditure would be aligned with emissions reduction, but last week the Secretary of State told us in terms that his main effort was resilience, not emissions reduction. The Prime Minister’s priority is the right one, but does the Secretary of State know?

Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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I assure my right hon. Friend that we are working on all these issues. As I indicated in response to an earlier question—I think it was in response to comments that the Leader of the Opposition made—it is important not only that we work on reduction, but that we ensure that while that reduction is taking place, we help those countries that need to build their resilience and their ability to deal with the climate change that we are already seeing. They are not mutually exclusive; I think we should be doing both.

European Council

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Monday 24th June 2019

(5 years, 5 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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I hope that I can reassure the hon. Lady that that issue was indeed one that was touched on in the discussions that were held around the EU Council table. There was a recognition that this issue has to be addressed across the world. Yes, it is right that the UK has led and that we want Europe to lead, but we want this to be something that is adopted widely across the globe, because that is the only way to ensure that we deal with these greenhouse gas emissions.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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What are the prospects of Mr Barnier getting one of the top jobs?

Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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I am not going to comment on individual potential candidates. A number of names are being mentioned around the European Union at the moment. As I have said, there was no consensus on candidates for the top jobs at the meeting last week. A further meeting will be held at the end of this week.

European Council

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Thursday 11th April 2019

(5 years, 7 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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No, it is not because I am concerned about what the result of such a vote would be; it is because I believe that, having given the decision to the British people on whether we should leave the European Union, it is the duty of this House to deliver on that.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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Is not it abundantly clear that anyone who believes that a second referendum will bring the nation together was on another planet during the last one?

Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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My right hon. Friend makes a very important point. I believe that a second referendum would be divisive, rather than healing.

European Council

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Monday 25th March 2019

(5 years, 8 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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I have answered it on a number of occasions. I think that when I met the hon. Lady she indicated that she would want to see remain on the ballot paper as well as the deal. She is not asking for confirmation of the deal in relation to leaving the European Union; she is questioning people, by going back and saying, “We asked you the question and you gave us an answer, but actually we are not sure that is the right one. Have another go.”

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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If decisions and powers have to be taken here in order to remedy the current unreadiness of Northern Ireland, is there a plan to deal with that in good time for 12 April?

Leaving the European Union

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Tuesday 26th February 2019

(5 years, 9 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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I am thinking precisely of the national interest when I sit down with the European Commission and other European Union leaders with a view to negotiating changes to the withdrawal agreement and the package we agreed, such that we can bring that back to this House and get agreement for a deal.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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So that I can prepare to realign myself to the metaphysical plane: what is my right hon. Friend’s estimate of the possibility of our leaving on time?

Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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It is my estimation that it is within our grasp to get changes such that we can bring a deal back to this House to enable this House to confirm in a meaningful vote its intention to leave the European Union with a deal on 29 March.

Leaving the EU

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Tuesday 12th February 2019

(5 years, 9 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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The hon. Lady may shake her head. There are elements of the political declaration that are still for debate, and I recognise that there will be rigorous debate on some of those elements. In short, we want to ensure that when we come to the end of the implementation period, we have that close economic and security relationship with the European Union.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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I hope that there is not a special place somewhere in particular for those of us who take a rather literal interpretation of the word “replace”.

Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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My right hon. Friend has always held a special place in my estimation and, indeed, in that of Members across the House, and I would not suggest that he would be going to any other special place.

Leaving the European Union

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Monday 21st January 2019

(5 years, 10 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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The position that I believe will be of great benefit to manufacturers and our economy is our having a good trading relationship with the EU and the freedom to negotiate those trade deals around the rest of the world, and that is what we have been working for.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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How is remaining in a customs union consistent with the decision of the British people to be no longer subject to the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice?

Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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My right hon. Friend raises an important issue. I believe one reason people voted to leave the EU was that they wanted to leave the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice, and that is what we want to deliver.

Leaving the EU

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Monday 14th January 2019

(5 years, 10 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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Business is absolutely clear that the certainty it requires is the certainty that will be given by agreeing this deal.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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To guarantee Brexit, the Prime Minister should prorogue Parliament until April—tempting, isn’t it?

Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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My right hon. Friend is trying to tempt me down a road that I do not think I should go down. Were Parliament to prorogue until April, I would be denied the opportunity to see my right hon. Friend and answer his questions on a regular basis, and that would be very sad.

European Council

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Monday 17th December 2018

(5 years, 11 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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I have made the point about listening to the House, which is why further discussions are taking place, and as I said in my statement, I am of course happy to speak with people in this House. I have been speaking with quite a few of my colleagues over the past couple of weeks, and I am happy to continue to speak with colleagues about how we can ensure that we deliver on the vote and that we deliver a good Brexit.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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Should the Prime Minister’s recent experiences at the EU Council not serve as a powerful corrective to any illusion that we could have remained a member of it?

Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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My right hon. Friend makes an interesting point. I suspect that what he saw actually fed into the concerns that many of the 17.4 million people had when they voted to leave.

Exiting the European Union

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Monday 10th December 2018

(5 years, 11 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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What the country requires is for us to continue to work to get a good deal over the line, so we can deliver on Brexit in a way that honours the referendum, and protects jobs and livelihoods across the country. Further uncertainty and division will do nothing to help people who are looking to their futures.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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Essential to any successful negotiator is the ability to walk away. The backstop takes that from us. How can the Prime Minister change that?

Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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First, we are continuing with the no-deal preparations. As I said earlier, the Cabinet will meet to discuss those further. Secondly, in any circumstance we need to ensure there is no hard border between Northern Ireland and Ireland. It is finding ways we can do that in a way that enables us to be free in a future relationship which is the best possible deal for this country. That is what we are looking for and striving to achieve.

Oral Answers to Questions

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Wednesday 28th November 2018

(5 years, 12 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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First, I have already quoted—referenced—what the Chancellor said. The hon. Lady’s reference to the issue of Gibraltar goes absolutely contrary to what the Chief Minister of Gibraltar has said about the way in which the United Kingdom has absolutely stood by Gibraltar—and we will continue to stand by Gibraltar. She will have heard me say before that I believe, in terms of a second referendum, that it is important that we deliver on the vote of the British people. But I would also just ask her to consider this: it would not be possible to hold a referendum before 29 March next year. That would mean having to extend article 50—[Interruption.] She wants to extend article 50 —delaying Brexit or leaving with no deal. I believe that the best option for this country is to ensure that we deliver on the Brexit vote, that we leave the European Union next March, that we do not delay that point, and that we leave with a good deal that will protect jobs across the country.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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Is the Prime Minister concerned about religious persecution in the Holy Land, and will she welcome the visit of the Patriarch of Jerusalem?

Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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I thank my right hon. Friend. Of course, he will know that this weekend marks the start of Advent, which is a time of expectation and hope for Christians. Today is Red Wednesday—a day when landmark buildings, including these Houses of Parliament, will turn scarlet as an act of solidarity with persecuted Christians.

I certainly welcome the Patriarch of Jerusalem’s upcoming visit. I know that some Israelis can face additional structural challenges, particularly Christian and Muslim Arab Israelis, who experience higher rates of poverty and unemployment, and can face discrimination. We certainly encourage the Israeli Government to do all they can to uphold the values of equality for all enshrined in their laws. I give my right hon. Friend the assurance that I will continue to work with Governments, with the international community and with the United Nations to support the rights of minorities, including Christians.

Leaving the EU

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Monday 26th November 2018

(5 years, 12 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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The common travel area will continue to exist. That is one of the things that has been agreed in the withdrawal agreement.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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The power to extend the transition or the backstop indefinitely has got to be a trap, hasn’t it?

Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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No, and precisely because of the reasons that I set out. Not only is it clear that that can only be temporary, but it is also the case that many in the European Union believe that the backstop is actually a place that gives the United Kingdom an advantage—an advantage that they would not wish to give us.

Progress on EU Negotiations

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Thursday 22nd November 2018

(6 years ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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First, let me add my congratulations to the hon. Lady on her election as President of the NATO Parliamentary Assembly. She refers to what will be possible within NATO and the capabilities available to NATO. We remain committed to NATO, as we always have been, as the secure element of our defence. We have had to take some decisions including, as she will be aware, a key decision about some future capabilities in relation to Galileo, because what was being offered by the European Union would not have given us sufficient ability to be part of and participate in that system. That is why we decided to take our own decision and go it alone in that area.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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But it is a wish list, isn’t it?

Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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No, this is a commitment on both sides to the future relationship that we will now be negotiating into legal text. As my right hon. Friend will I am sure recognise, there is a linkage between the withdrawal agreement and this political declaration that makes clear the importance of both sides putting their best endeavours into ensuring that this future relationship is negotiated in legal text and available by the end of December 2020.

EU Exit Negotiations

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Thursday 15th November 2018

(6 years ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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Members of the Cabinet came together yesterday to look at the withdrawal agreement and the outline political declaration. The information was made available to them once the text had been finalised. Those negotiations carried on quite late, and the Cabinet was able to take its decision on the basis of the proper papers.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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Why did the Prime Minister say that rejecting the deal risked no Brexit? Can she quantify that risk and say how it might occur?

Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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My right hon. Friend will be aware that there may be those in the House, as we have heard from several Opposition Members, who wish to ensure we do not leave the EU. I believe that it is important that we do leave the EU and that we do so on the basis of a good future relationship with the EU.

October EU Council

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Monday 22nd October 2018

(6 years, 1 month ago)

Commons Chamber
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Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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The original technical proposal and the facilitated customs agreement have both been rejected, so what can the Prime Minister conceive that might be brought forward to solve the Northern Ireland problem in the next two or even three years?

Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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Actually, those two have not both been completely rejected, as my right hon. Friend suggests. In fact, as I said, we have made substantial progress, and there has been a substantial shift from the EU since Salzburg in agreeing to look at the arrangements for a UK-EU-wide customs backstop, which was exactly what we put forward in the TCA.

EU Exit Negotiations

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Monday 15th October 2018

(6 years, 1 month ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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There has indeed been a general election since the referendum. Over 80% of Members stood on a manifesto promise to deliver on the vote of the people to leave the EU.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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Were it to become necessary to implement a backstop agreement, the subsequent ending of that arrangement must be a matter for the British Government, must it not?

Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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As I said in my statement, if it is necessary to implement a backstop agreement, we will want to ensure that we, as the British Government, can ensure that it is indeed temporary and does not become permanent.

Salisbury Update

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Wednesday 5th September 2018

(6 years, 2 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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I absolutely support what the hon. Gentleman has said. Our security professionals do an amazing job for us on a daily basis. We have seen the painstaking professionalism that they have shown in this particular investigation, which has led us to the position where we can make the statements that the Metropolitan police and I have made today in relation to these two individuals and to what happened in Salisbury. It is incumbent on all of us across the whole House unequivocally to give our support to the security services in the job that they do. We face a range of threats in this country, and the people of this country need the reassurance of knowing that their politicians are giving the necessary support to the security services.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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A decision outside the GRU by the Russian state at a senior level—she means President Putin, doesn’t she?

Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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I mean a decision outside the GRU at a senior level in the Russian state.

NATO Summit

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Monday 16th July 2018

(6 years, 4 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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The hon. Lady is absolutely right in the way that she describes the attack that took place in Salisbury and the use of a nerve agent on the streets of the United Kingdom. We know that an individual has died as a result of contact with Novichok. I did raise the severity of this issue with President Trump. The United States reacted alongside us after that attack. It expelled more Russian intelligence officers and more Russian diplomats than any other country. I raised this among other issues that I would expect President Trump to raise with President Putin.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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Two per cent. must not be the measure. Rather, it should be the capability to deliver lethal effect, shouldn’t it?

Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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My right hon. Friend makes an important point, which is that, while focus is often on the numerical figure for spending, capability is important as well. That is, of course, where the United Kingdom scores not just in terms of the spending that we make, but in ensuring that we have the capability necessary and that that is available.

Leaving the EU

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Monday 9th July 2018

(6 years, 4 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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The Government’s policy is very clear. I have set it out this afternoon. Further details will be in the White Paper. The Brexit Secretary looks forward to delivering on that Government policy.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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Will the Prime Minister assure me that we will not charge the EU any more for access to our markets than we would expect to be charged?

Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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One of the key features of the facilitated customs arrangement that people may not have seen is that we would recognise that the European Union would effectively be taking tariffs for UK goods that would enter other European Union countries to come to the United Kingdom. We would make sure that that was reflected in the arrangements that are made in relation to the facilitated customs arrangement.

June European Council

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Monday 2nd July 2018

(6 years, 4 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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That is a very interesting contribution from the right hon. Gentleman. I seem to remember when we were in the coalition Government one or two occasions when I woke up as Home Secretary to discover statements he had made from his position, which certainly did not reflect Cabinet collective responsibility.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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Will Brexit be recognisable as Brexit?

Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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There has been much jocularity around the term “Brexit means Brexit,” but it does mean Brexit. People want to ensure that we take back control of our borders and our laws, and that we no longer continue to send vast sums of money to the European Union each year. We will be coming out of the common agricultural policy and the common fisheries policy, but we will be ensuring that we are able to trade with the European Union and set an independent trade policy that enables us to negotiate good trade deals around the rest of the world.

G7

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Monday 11th June 2018

(6 years, 5 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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Nothing is further from the truth. I suggest that the hon. Gentleman look at the international coalition that supported the United Kingdom in response to what Russia did on the streets of Salisbury in the nerve agent attack.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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Might the prospects for consensus have been better had not leaders previously, and so publicly, announced their intention to undermine US policy on Iran?

Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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The United States has chosen to reimpose sanctions on Iran and therefore to pull out of the joint comprehensive plan of action—the Iran nuclear deal. We have worked with France and Germany because we continue to believe that, as long as Iran meets its obligations under that deal, it is important to maintain that deal. But we accept—and have been working with those countries, the United States and others—that more needs to be done in relation to Iran’s ballistic missile programme and its destabilising activity in the region. We will continue to work with all partners who want, like us, to ensure that we can take some action to reduce that destabilising activity.

Syria

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Monday 16th April 2018

(6 years, 7 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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I think that the hon. Gentleman has seen from the fact that the United Kingdom and France came together with the United States in this action that there is leadership being shown in Europe on this matter. We will continue to work with France, as I said, on the international grouping that it has put together on the prohibition of the use of chemical weapons. It is clear that Europe has taken a stance on this and has shown the way on the importance of the international rules-based order.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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Had the Prime Minister first sought our consent, with what detail might she have persuaded us without fundamentally compromising our intelligence-gathering capability?

Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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My right hon. Friend has put his finger on a particular aspect of this issue. It is not possible to bring all the intelligence through to this House; it is not possible to make all that intelligence public. Sometimes, actually, more information can be made available after the event than in advance of the event, because we do need to maintain the operational security of our armed forces.

European Council

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Monday 26th March 2018

(6 years, 8 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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No. I am sorry, but that is not what I should be doing. My political secretary does a very good job as my political secretary, and as I have said, any statements that have been made were personal statements.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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Were we to adopt the Leader of the Opposition’s policy of domestic procurement preference, would that not be a passport to ruin?

Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister
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I welcome my right hon. Friend’s way with words in his question, and I think he is absolutely right. As my right hon. Friend the Minister for Immigration said earlier this afternoon, we want to ensure we are providing a secure document and good value for the taxpayer, and show that we as a Government believe in competition and open markets.

National Security and Russia

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Monday 26th March 2018

(6 years, 8 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness May of Maidenhead Portrait The Prime Minister (Mrs Theresa May)
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I beg to move,

That this House has considered national security and Russia.

Three weeks ago, the Russian Federation was responsible for an attempted murder here in our country. This was not only a crime against Sergei and Yulia Skripal: it was an indiscriminate and reckless act against the United Kingdom, putting the lives of innocent civilians at risk; it was an assault on our fundamental values and the rules-based international system that upholds them; and it was part of a pattern of increasingly aggressive Russian behaviour, but which, with the first offensive use of a nerve agent on European soil since the foundation of NATO, also represents a new and dangerous phase in Russia’s hostile activity within our continent and beyond.

So this debate is taking place because there is no greater responsibility for this House, for this Government and for me as Prime Minister than recognising threats to our national security and acting to meet them. So let me set out for the House: what we now know about the recklessness of this act and its exposure of innocent people to potential harm; the evidence that Russia was indeed responsible; the wider pattern of Russia’s illegal and destabilising actions within our continent and beyond; the extensive actions this Government have already been taking; and our determination to work with our international partners to confront the evolving nature of this threat, to defend the rules-based international system and to keep our people safe.

Let me start by updating the House on the situation in Salisbury. Sergei and Yulia Skripal remain critically ill in hospital. Sadly, late last week doctors indicated that their condition is unlikely to change in the near future and that they may never recover fully. This shows the utterly barbaric nature of this act and the dangers that hundreds of innocent citizens in Salisbury could have faced. An investigation continues into all the locations at which the Skripals had been present on Sunday 4 March. As a result, we now have a fuller picture of the recklessness of this act against our country. Although Public Health England has made it clear that the risk to public health is low, and that remains the case, we assess that more than 130 people in Salisbury could have been potentially exposed to the nerve agent. More than 50 people were assessed in hospital, with Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey taken seriously ill. Everyone in the House will welcome the news that he has been discharged and, as we said earlier, we continue to hold him and his family in our thoughts as he makes his recovery.

We are quite clear that Russia was responsible for this act. As I set out for the House in my statements earlier this month, our world-leading experts at the Defence Science and Technology Laboratory at Porton Down positively identified the chemical used for this act as a novichok, a military-grade nerve agent of a type developed by the Soviet Union. We know that Russia has a record of conducting state-sponsored assassinations, and that it views some former intelligence officers as legitimate targets for those assassinations. We have information that indicates that within the past decade Russia has investigated ways to deliver nerve agents, probably for assassination, and has, as part of this programme, produced and stockpiled small quantities of novichoks. That is clearly in contravention of the chemical weapons convention, so it is right that we have been working closely with the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, from which a team arrived in the UK last week and collected samples. This is a normal part of our discharging our obligations under the convention, although we are clear as to what the evidence is.

As a permanent member of the UN Security Council, the upholding of non-proliferation regimes with our partners is central to our international security, while Russia has recklessly undermined and violated them. As I have set out, no other country has a combination of the capability, intent and motive to carry out such an act. There is no other plausible explanation—and that is not just the view of the UK Government; it was the unanimous view of every single leader at least week’s European Council and it is the view of our allies in NATO and around the world.

There are some who question whether there could be alternative explanations, so let me be absolutely clear: we have been led by evidence, not by speculation. When faced with the evidence, we gave the Russian Government the opportunity to provide an explanation, but they did not do so. They provided no explanation as to why Russia has an undeclared chemical weapons programme, in contravention of international law; no explanation that could suggest that they had lost control of their nerve agent; and no explanation as to how this agent came to be used in the United Kingdom. Instead, they have treated the use of a military-grade nerve agent in Europe with sarcasm, contempt and defiance.

Incredibly, the Russian Government have deployed at least 21 different arguments about it. They have suggested that they never produced novichoks, or that they produced them but then destroyed them. They have tried to claim that their agents are not covered by the chemical weapons convention. They have pointed the finger at other countries, including Slovakia, Sweden and the Czech Republic, and they even tried to claim that the United Kingdom was responsible for a chemical attack on our own citizens. For a nation state like Russia to resort again to peddling such preposterous and contradictory theories is unworthy of its people and their great history.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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Cabinet Ministers in this House defended Russia, despite the growing evidence of the enormity of its crimes, from 1929 to 1931. At least that was understandable on the basis of a shared ideology. Now that Russia has abandoned that ideology, to what can the Prime Minister attribute the reluctance of the right hon. Member for Islington North (Jeremy Corbyn) to point the finger where it properly lies?

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I can find no reason to attribute to the right hon. Member for Islington North (Jeremy Corbyn) for the stance that he has previously taken on this issue. I hope that, like some of his right hon. and hon. Friends, he will take a different position in this debate.

As I was saying, to peddle such preposterous theories is unworthy of the Russian people. It is merely an effort to distract from the truth of Russia’s violation of international law. This unlawful use of force by the Russian state against the United Kingdom is a clear violation of the chemical weapons convention and a breach of the UN charter. This act against our country is the latest in a pattern of increasingly aggressive Russian behaviour, attacking the international rules-based system across our continent and beyond.

Russia’s illegal actions in Crimea were the first time since the second world war that one sovereign nation has forcibly annexed territory from another in Europe. Since then, Russia has fomented conflict in the Donbass, repeatedly violated the national airspace of several European countries and mounted a sustained campaign of cyber-espionage and disruption.

Salisbury Incident

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Wednesday 14th March 2018

(6 years, 8 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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I thank the hon. Gentleman for his remarks—he made a strong statement on Monday in the House as well—and assure him that I and the Government will stay the course. As I said in my statement, we recognise that there might be further Russian provocation. If there is, we have further measures we can deploy, but it is important—and we will encourage our international allies to do this too—that we recognise that this is an important moment to stand up and say to Russia, “No, you cannot do this!”

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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The Russian economy is a fraction but its expenditure on offensive capability a multiple of ours. Is there a lesson there?

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Of course we constantly look at the resources we put in to ensure our national security, which is assured across a number of Departments, and we continue to do so.

Salisbury Incident

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Monday 12th March 2018

(6 years, 8 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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We should all be wary and careful in looking at media outlets that any Member chooses to appear on. As I said, the issue of Russia Today is of concern to Members across the House, and I will make a further statement in the House after we have had the Russian state response.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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In the early 1980s, the planning assumption was that the road to war with the Soviet Union would be preceded by six months of increasing tension, sabotage and assassination. What are the current assumptions?

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There was a time when the threats posed by Russia and others were clear and limited in their type; today, we see a diversity of threats. The previous question referenced Russia’s use of propaganda, and we see it using a variety of means by which to attempt to interfere, intervene and affect countries in the west. We must be able to respond across the range of threats posed.

UK/EU Future Economic Partnership

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Monday 5th March 2018

(6 years, 8 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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The United States has expressed interest in a trade deal with us—so have a number of other countries around the world, such as Australia and others—but as I have said, and as the Environment Secretary and others have said, we remain committed to high animal welfare and environmental standards.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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Were a settlement close, how will the Prime Minister react to entreaties to delay departure by agreement within article 50?

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It is our intention to ensure that we can negotiate what is necessary to negotiate within the time scale that is set within article 50.

Oral Answers to Questions

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Wednesday 17th January 2018

(6 years, 10 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Obviously I am sorry to hear of the experience of the hon. Gentleman’s constituent. We are turning our words on putting a priority on mental health into action. Is there more for us to do? Yes. That is why we are continuing to put an emphasis on this. We do see more people being able to access mental health services every day. We have increased the number of people having access to therapies. We have increased the funding that is available for mental health. There is more for us to do, but we are putting more money in and we are taking more action on mental health than any previous Government.

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A question keeps me awake at night: how will companies be encouraged to follow the Prime Minister’s lead in the way that Iceland has done?

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I am very pleased to say that this week Iceland has made a commitment to be plastic-free. We have seen other companies make commitments to ensure that any plastics they use are recyclable over a number of years. I am very happy to join my right hon. Friend in saying that we will be encouraging companies to follow Iceland’s lead. We will also be consulting on how the tax system or the introduction of charges could further reduce the amount of waste we create. We are launching a new plastics innovation fund, backed up by additional funding that the Government are investing in research and development to ensure that we really do reduce the amount of plastic that is used and leave the environment of this land in a better state than we found it.

European Council

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Monday 18th December 2017

(6 years, 11 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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It is perfectly possible for this country to maintain our position on Russia. I have set out the UK’s position on Russia—I did it in my speech at the Lord Mayor’s banquet. We will continue to work with our European colleagues on the approach that we take and we will continue to work through other international organisations, such as the United Nations, on these matters.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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How likely is it that the Prime Minister would ask the EU27 to extend the article 50 deadline?

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Sorry—I did not hear the beginning of my right hon. Friend’s question.

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How likely is it?

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I think everybody is now looking very clearly at the timetable that has already been set. Donald Tusk, the President of the European Council, has expressed the view that we need to accelerate the progress because we need to get the agreement in place and the arrangements negotiated very speedily. We will be leaving on 29 March 2019.

European Council

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Monday 23rd October 2017

(7 years, 1 month ago)

Commons Chamber
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I note the hon. Gentleman’s bid in relation to this matter. He tempts me to make a business statement, which I will not do because that is, of course, a matter for my right hon. Friend the Leader of the House. I am pleased that the Government are able to support the Bill that the hon. Gentleman has brought forward. I think that it is important, and we look forward to seeing it on the statute book.

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Will my right hon. Friend show caution in respect of the suggestion that she reach out to, and enlist the support of, Opposition Members, particularly those who have shown their desire to thwart Brexit at every turn by voting against the principle of the withdrawal Bill?

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My right hon. Friend, with his many years of wisdom, is right to urge caution on me in that regard. He is absolutely right that the Labour party has tried to thwart the very measure that would enable us to put in place the decision taken by the British people.

UK Plans for Leaving the EU

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Monday 9th October 2017

(7 years, 1 month ago)

Commons Chamber
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That is the view of the European Parliament in its resolution. In my statement and my Florence speech, I put out that we expect that the implementation period will be based on the current rules and regulations, but of course this is part of the negotiation.

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To negotiate an outcome consistent with the ambition that my right hon. Friend has set out, is it not absolutely essential that we invest in preparations against the possibility of no agreement at all?

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Yes, I can absolutely agree with my right hon. Friend on that, and that is precisely why that is exactly what the Government are doing.

G20

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Monday 10th July 2017

(7 years, 4 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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We regularly raise that issue, and we are disappointed at the lack of progress on it. We will continue to press on it, but of course if we are going to get that multilateral agreement, others have to agree to the concept as well. We will continue to press on the issue, however. It is on the agenda because the UK has been putting it there, and we will continue to do so.

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On the new love-fest with Members on the Opposition Benches, given the record of the Leader of the Opposition on the Counter-Terrorism and Security Act 2015, does the Prime Minister possess a very long spoon?

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I can say to my right hon. Friend that as Home Secretary I welcomed the co-operation which I had from the Labour Benches—not from the right hon. Gentleman who is currently Leader of the Opposition, but from others on his Benches, who have seen the need to ensure that our agencies have appropriate powers to deal with the terrorist threat that we face—and I look forward to Labour MPs, and indeed others on the Opposition Benches in this House, supporting those counter-terrorism measures when we bring them forward.

European Council

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness May of Maidenhead
Monday 26th June 2017

(7 years, 5 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Yes: if the parents have been living here for the five years, their daughter will be able to return to the United Kingdom on the same basis that she would today. So there will be no new rules that would apply. If they have been living here for fewer than five years, they will be able to accrue the five-year status so that they go to exactly the same position with that settled status.

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The Leader of the Opposition alleged that many Conservative Members were coming over to Labour’s way of thinking. Just in case I were tempted, does anyone have any idea what that is?

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My right hon. Friend is always known for his plain speaking and he has put the point in a rather plainer way than I did in response to the Leader of the Opposition.