Debates between Desmond Swayne and Baroness Winterton of Doncaster during the 2019-2024 Parliament

Safety of Rwanda (Asylum and Immigration) Bill

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness Winterton of Doncaster
Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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On a point of order, Madam Chairman. The hon. Lady’s speech seems more appropriate for Second Reading. It would be helpful if she could direct her attention to the amendments, about which we are interested to hear what she has to say.

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait The First Deputy Chairman
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It is actually amendments and clause stand part, so that gives a wider scope than perhaps the right hon. Gentleman realises.

Product Security and Telecommunications Infrastructure Bill

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness Winterton of Doncaster
Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne
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My amendments 9 to 11 are designed to address what was made clear in the House on Second Reading, which is that there are examples of egregious bullying by the operators and that there is a complete disproportion of power between those operators and the landowners. The Minister has spoken of her demand for more collaborative working and collaborative negotiation, but we are asking for the process of alternative dispute resolution to be a requirement from the outset precisely because the operators know that they have the power to overawe and frighten landowners with the threat of legal action.

The purpose of my amendments 11 and 12, which was spelt out very well by the Minister, is to return to the status quo ante 2017. Until 2017, compensation was based on market value, and in 2017 the new code changed it to land value, notwithstanding the explicit advice of the Law Commission not to do so. As was entirely predictable and as was predicted, the market dried up as a consequence and there were far fewer agreements. One of the purposes of this Bill is of course to address that problem of the reduction in agreements. Therefore, the obvious remedy is to restore the position as it was and return to market value, but far from doing that—far from seizing this opportunity to remedy the situation—the Government are compounding their error by wanting to make agreements previously made under the old regime renewable under land value, actually making the problem significantly worse as a consequence.

I do not know why the Government appear to have adopted the anarchist principle that property is theft. On the contrary, these measures, by denying landowners proper compensation on the basis of market value—compensation arrived at by a free and open market—and coercing them accordingly to give up their property rights, strike me as theft. These provisions in the Bill are in effect a conspiracy to promote theft: it is stealing. I just cannot understand how a Conservative Government have brought themselves to bring this measure before the House, changing the law retrospectively and so damaging property rights. I just assume that Ministers simply have not realised the enormity of the change they are making. Accordingly, I believe these amendments are vitally necessary for the Bill.

Committees

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness Winterton of Doncaster
Tuesday 8th February 2022

(2 years, 9 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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With the leave of the House, we will take motions 5 to 9 together.

Ordered,

ENVIRONMENTAL AUDIT COMMITTEE

That Nadia Whittome be discharged from the Environmental Audit Committee and Clive Lewis be added.

HOME AFFAIRS COMMITTEE

That Paula Barker be added to the Home Affairs Committee.

LEVELLING UP, HOUSING AND COMMUNITIES COMMITTEE

That Rachel Hopkins be discharged from the Levelling Up, Housing and Communities Committee and Kate Hollern be added.

COMMITTEE OF PUBLIC ACCOUNTS

That Barry Gardiner be discharged from the Committee of Public Accounts and Kate Green be added.

WOMEN AND EQUALITIES COMMITTEE

That Alex Davies-Jones be discharged from the Women and Equalities Committee and Carolyn Harris be added.—(Sir Bill Wiggin, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.)

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. On 14 December, in the debate on the covid regulations, I said that more people were dying in the carnage on the roads than of covid-19. I have now seen the statistics and that was incorrect. I thought it appropriate to correct the record.

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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I thank the right hon. Gentleman for his point of order and for giving me notice of it. I am sure that the House will appreciate that he has corrected the record as soon as he knew that he had given incorrect information.

Coronavirus Act 2020 (Review of Temporary Provisions) (No. 3)

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness Winterton of Doncaster
Tuesday 19th October 2021

(3 years, 1 month ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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The question is Motion No. 4 as on the Order Paper. As many as are of that opinion, say Aye. [Hon. Members: “Aye.”] Of the contrary, No. [Interruption.] Could I have the Noes again?

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker
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I am afraid I fear the mood of the House is not to have a vote. The right hon. Gentleman would have to rustle up a few more people to really get the sense that we required a vote—

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne
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The just shall live by faith.

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker
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I am sure they will. The Ayes have it.

Question put and agreed to.

Resolved,

That the temporary provisions of the Coronavirus Act 2020 should not yet expire.

Coronavirus

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Baroness Winterton of Doncaster
Thursday 25th March 2021

(3 years, 8 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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The habit of inhumane policy soon trickles down to the servants of the state. This morning, a constituent of mine undergoing a miscarriage was denied the company of her husband. I have sent the details to the Secretary of State.

Tyranny is a habit, and the motions on the Order Paper this evening show that we have not quite kicked it. The powers that touched our personal choices and came at such a huge cost remain. We were told that they were there purely temporarily to deal with the emergency. Well, by any measure the emergency is over and the hugely successful vaccination campaign is the guarantee against its return. Yet on the Order Paper tonight the Government seek to retain those powers to control aspects of our lives, together with the punishment regime for those who disobey.

Now, those of us who can spot the trajectory will have seen yesterday that, after months of denial, people will now indeed have to provide their vaccination bona fides when they go to the pub. Those who are teetotal and imagine that they might be spared such intrusion and inconvenience can dream on: this will undoubtedly be extended to restaurants, theatres, sporting venues, and so proceed to total social control. Did it ever occur to Ministers that they might actually incentivise vaccination—carrot, not stick? Undoubtedly it did not, because they cannot kick the habit. They are wedded to the stick.

Let there be no wringing of hands by Members of Parliament who vote for oppressive legislation and then wail with indignation when the police actually enforce it. When families are fined thousands of pounds for staying over together at Easter, we will know that it was because this House willed it so. Those people, those hon. Members, wishing for these measures to pass tonight should reflect clearly on exactly what it is they wish for.

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
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The Member who was No. 14 on the call list has withdrawn, so we go to Sir Bernard Jenkin.