All 1 Debates between Lord Hanson of Flint and Angus Robertson

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Debate between Lord Hanson of Flint and Angus Robertson
Wednesday 18th May 2016

(8 years, 7 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Angus Robertson Portrait Angus Robertson
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May I make a little progress? I will be happy to come back to the hon. Gentleman.

The SNP’s alternative Queen’s Speech would deliver a Scottish home rule Bill, which would involve a strong package of powers for the Scottish Parliament. The wording is quite important, because of course the people of Scotland were promised home rule and near federalism. My degree is in politics, and I have had a look at federal systems around the world. There are a number of parties in the House that favour federalism, but we do not live in a federal state in the UK, and nothing in the Scotland Act comes remotely close to “near federalism”. That was not in the Queen’s Speech. It would have been good to see it there; perhaps the Government might think about it, but I hae ma doots—“I have my doubts,” he says, looking at the poor Hansard writers.

The Government are unlikely to deliver a Scottish home rule Bill, but perhaps, given the unhappiness on the Treasury Bench about the House of Lords for the first time in a long while, the time has come for even the Conservative party to realise that there is a need for parliamentary reform. Let us be serious. We work in a Parliament where the second Chamber is not elected by anyone. Let me say that again: the second Chamber of the Parliament described as the mother of all Parliaments is made up of people elected by nobody. This is the 21st century. Please let us get on with replacing the House of Lords.

Lord Hanson of Flint Portrait Mr Hanson
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Angus Robertson Portrait Angus Robertson
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I hope that the right hon. Gentleman will support our proposal.

Lord Hanson of Flint Portrait Mr Hanson
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Absolutely. However, the right hon. Gentleman is wrong because some Members of the other place are elected. The former Member for Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross, Lord Thurso, was recently elected by three Members of the House of Lords.

Angus Robertson Portrait Angus Robertson
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I stand corrected, but I still think that that is totally unacceptable.