Debates between Chris Grayling and Peter Aldous during the 2010-2015 Parliament

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Debate between Chris Grayling and Peter Aldous
Tuesday 19th March 2013

(11 years, 3 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Peter Aldous Portrait Peter Aldous (Waveney) (Con)
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3. What progress he has made on introducing payment by results for the rehabilitation of offenders.

Chris Grayling Portrait The Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice (Chris Grayling)
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We want to introduce payment by results to incentivise providers to reduce reoffending. It makes sense as a way of improving effectiveness and getting a good deal for the taxpayer.

Our “Transforming Rehabilitation” consultation closed on 22 February 2013. We will respond to it and bring forward detailed plans in due course.

Peter Aldous Portrait Peter Aldous
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I am grateful to the Secretary of State for that answer. There is, however, a concern that a payment-by-results approach can favour larger national companies. What measures are being put in place to ensure that local voluntary and charitable organisations, which often have a proven track record built up over many years, will not be squeezed out?

Chris Grayling Portrait Chris Grayling
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I agree with my hon. Friend. Within the voluntary sector, we find very many of the mentoring skills that I am so keen to harness in preventing reoffending. That is why we have a team in the Cabinet Office working with the voluntary sector to ensure that they are as well prepared as possible for this exercise, and why I am making it absolutely clear that I do not believe that winning contracts can take place without a contribution from the mentoring skills to be found in the sector.

Oral Answers to Questions

Debate between Chris Grayling and Peter Aldous
Tuesday 5th February 2013

(11 years, 4 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Peter Aldous Portrait Peter Aldous (Waveney) (Con)
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8. How he plans to ensure that the voluntary and charitable sectors play a full role in the rehabilitation of offenders.

Chris Grayling Portrait The Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice (Chris Grayling)
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Retaining the expertise and dynamism of the voluntary and community sector within the justice system is central to our approach. We have already announced an extra £500,000 of grant funding to support voluntary sector organisations, helping them to compete for contracts. My team and I are meeting a large number of such bodies early in this process to ensure that they are as fully on board as possible.

Peter Aldous Portrait Peter Aldous
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I am grateful to the Secretary of State for his reply. His recent statement on transforming rehabilitation has the potential to be hugely positive for the voluntary sector, but it is crucial that charities can compete for contracts on a level playing field. What action have the Government taken to make sure that charities are not at a disadvantage when competing for contracts on a payment by results basis?

Chris Grayling Portrait Chris Grayling
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I would make two points to my hon. Friend. I absolutely agree with his premise but, first, the cash-flow element of the proposals that we have introduced will not be as tough as that for the Work programme. Part of the task is to pay for the requirements of the court, so the cash-flow situation will be rather different. Secondly, I am making sure that we really engage the social investment sector, which can play an important part in ensuring that voluntary sector organisations can compete on that level playing field and win on it.