Debates between Carolyn Harris and Wera Hobhouse during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Domestic Abuse Bill

Debate between Carolyn Harris and Wera Hobhouse
Wednesday 2nd October 2019

(5 years, 2 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Carolyn Harris Portrait Carolyn Harris
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It certainly does and I think we all recognise, as I said previously, that experience and learned behaviour can cause perpetrators of the future.

Carolyn Harris Portrait Carolyn Harris
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I am going to make progress.

Operation Encompass, which is an excellent example of what we are doing in communities, was set up to enable police forces and schools to confidentially and quickly share information about vulnerable children who need support and safeguarding.

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Carolyn Harris Portrait Carolyn Harris
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Never not give way to a Whip—I have learnt that much since I have been here, and it always helps when it is a Whip with a Welsh accent. As I had a chair at the conference and my hon. Friend did not, I will certainly agree with her and say that Rachel is an absolute inspiration and someone we should all look up to.

Wera Hobhouse Portrait Wera Hobhouse
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Will the hon. Lady give way to someone with a non-Welsh accent?

Carolyn Harris Portrait Carolyn Harris
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indicated assent.

Wera Hobhouse Portrait Wera Hobhouse
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Does she agree that, in order to protect children, we need to include them in the statutory definition of domestic abuse victims and that it is disappointing that the Bill currently does not do that?

Carolyn Harris Portrait Carolyn Harris
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I agree that we need to look at the definition and the impact on children. That is something that we can look at closely in Committee, and we would welcome amendments guided in that direction.

It is not just the courts that we need to look at; we also need to look at housing, which is another thing that currently allows perpetrators to control their victims. In cases of joint tenancy, only one tenant needs to end the lease, effectively allowing abusers to leave their victims homeless. The Bill needs to adopt changes to that law that would require both parties to end the tenancy and, in cases where perpetrators are convicted of domestic violence, automatically transfer the tenancy to the name of the victim. For victims who leave their accommodation by choice due to violence, the Bill needs to legislate to ensure that they automatically become a priority need for housing, irrespective of whether they have moved to emergency refuge accommodation.