Living with Difference

Debate between Baroness Williams of Trafford and Lord Popat

Monday 18th January 2016 Lords Chamber

[Baroness Williams of Trafford]

My Lords, I totally agree with the noble Baroness that, unless we have decent teachers, we cannot have high-quality education. I cannot disagree with that point.

[Lord Popat (Con)]

Does my noble friend the Minister agree that the Prayers we have here before our business begins are not just energising but a stark reminder that we are here to represent something bigger than ourselves and our respective political parties? Therefore, the Prayers are not just complementary to other faiths but very much inclusive of them?

[Baroness Williams of Trafford]

My noble friend makes a very good point. When I stand at Prayers, my noble friend is often there, as are members of other religions and myself as a Catholic. I commend the fact that the Bishops conduct the Prayers in such an inclusive way. That is why I think so many Members of your Lordships’ House attend Prayers, as it is a lovely time of reflection.

Caste Discrimination

Debate between Baroness Williams of Trafford and Lord Popat

Wednesday 15th July 2015 Lords Chamber

[Baroness Williams of Trafford]

I can confirm that this Government, elected only a few weeks ago, are actively considering the matter.

[Lord Popat (Con)]

My Lords, the vast majority of the British Hindu and Sikh community are outraged at this amendment to the Equality Act. Does the Minister agree with the Hindu organisations that implementing this amendment would be a blow to community cohesion in this great country and that the Government should legislate to remove it from the statute book?

[Baroness Williams of Trafford]

I agree with my noble friend that the issue is divisive. There is a strong lobby both for and against, and the Government are very concerned not to exacerbate the problem. Therefore, the present position, whereby protection from caste discrimination is developing naturally through case law, is very helpful.