Debates between Baroness Verma and Lord Cameron of Dillington during the 2010-2015 Parliament

Infrastructure Bill [HL]

Debate between Baroness Verma and Lord Cameron of Dillington
Tuesday 22nd July 2014

(9 years, 10 months ago)

Grand Committee
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My Lords, I, too, support the idea of community involvement in projects. As I said in my Second Reading speech, I support Amendment 94AA in view of the possibility of local opposition causing projects to fail. Fracking is very controversial. It seems to me that if you could involve the local community in a fracking project in the same way as the Government are trying to do with renewables, it would be very beneficial.

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My Lords, I take this opportunity again to thank all noble Lords for their excellent contributions. In addressing this rather large group of amendments, I hope that I can respond to many of the points the noble Baroness raised. If I do not do so, I undertake to write to her.

Amendment 94AA seeks to extend the scope of the community electricity right to include all electricity generation facilities. While the Government strongly support community engagement in relation to the development of all energy projects, we are clear that these provisions should apply only to renewable electricity generation facilities. I would like to set out the reasons for this.

First, this measure is part of our broader approach for increasing community investment in renewables, as set out in the Community Energy Strategy. The policy was developed specifically to tackle the imbalance between national and local benefits that characterises renewable schemes. In general, there tends to be widespread support for renewable electricity developments at a national level, but this is not always reflected at a local level where the impacts are felt directly by communities. Enabling communities to invest in their local renewable electricity schemes will mean that they can gain a greater share of the financial benefits and, more importantly, feel a greater sense of ownership of schemes being developed on their doorstep. This will help to increase public engagement, acceptance and support for renewable projects at a local level. What is more, developers will also stand to gain. Experience in this country and abroad has shown that where communities have a financial stake in a local renewable development—the noble Baroness cited Germany in this regard—this often translates into less opposition and a quicker, cheaper development process.

There is already a voluntary approach that is currently developing a framework for increasing shared ownership. Only if this is not successful would we consider exercising the backstop powers. It would therefore make no sense to expand the scope to include all electricity generation projects when both the policy objective and the voluntary approach are focused solely on renewables.

On Amendment 94AB, I remind noble Lords of the importance of reporting on actions to reduce energy demand and carbon emissions. I recognise that there are many forms of community action that can make a difference to reducing our country’s carbon emissions and managing the demand of energy. The Community Energy Strategy that we published recognises the benefits of putting communities in control of the energy they use. Furthermore, it sets out how communities can get involved in reducing, generating, managing and purchasing energy.

In addition, through the Community Energy Call for Evidence, the department committed to commissioning an external research project specifically focused on energy demand and distributed energy. This research project has now concluded, and we will publish the findings shortly. While these are very important elements of growing the community energy sector and tackling climate change, they are not directly connected with the implementation of the community electricity right regulations.

Energy Bill

Debate between Baroness Verma and Lord Cameron of Dillington
Thursday 25th July 2013

(10 years, 10 months ago)

Grand Committee
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I am sorry to add to the worries. I had not intended to intervene but it seems to me that, in spite of what the noble Lord, Lord Deben says, there is the possibility of unfair competition arising, particularly as regards timber used for building, and a subsequent increase in the cost of building houses, which is something I do not want to see. There is also the possibility of a higher carbon footprint arising from timber being sourced from the wrong place and in the wrong way, as several noble Lords have mentioned. The Government need to keep an eye on this. Therefore, there should be a mechanism to enable them to do so.

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My Lords, I am extremely grateful to my noble friends Lord Jenkin and Lord Roper for tabling this amendment. It would give the Secretary of State further powers to require operators of electricity generating stations that use wood as a form of renewable energy to provide fuel strategies to the Secretary of State for review and approval, covering, for example, the quantity and country of origin of wood to be used.

I am grateful to noble Lords who have raised serious concerns. I appreciate the intention behind my noble friends’ amendment, which is to increase the control the Government have over the amount and kind of woody biomass which is used for electricity generation, and thus to minimise the potential impacts on non-energy sectors which use wood such as the wood processing and wood panel sectors. Indeed, it is a stated aim of the Government’s bioenergy strategy that support for bioenergy, including support for power generation from woody biomass, should consider the consequences of policy interventions on the wider energy system and economy, including non-energy industries. It is the Government’s view that where this and the other aims listed in the bioenergy strategy are met, bioenergy can make a significant contribution to meeting our renewable energy, energy security and emissions reduction needs at low cost. Bioenergy also has the benefit of being dispatchable, so can operate when required.

However, we are aware of concerns raised by several UK industries regarding the impact of biomass electricity on UK wood prices and have taken a number of measures to address this. Last year we took the decision to ask all large-scale electricity generators using woody biomass to disclose to us, on a voluntary basis, the amount of UK wood that they estimate they will procure and use over the next five years. We require this information to be signed off by the company’s board. We are pleased to say that all the operators responded to our request and provided this information, which the department has aggregated and will publish shortly. We will write to the electricity companies again this year with the intention to make the fuel disclosure a yearly practice.

Generating stations operating under the renewables obligation are also required to provide annual sustainability reports on biomass use. This includes the information held by the operator on the tonnages and types of biomass used—for example, whether that be woodchip, sawdust or energy crops—and whether the fuel came from a source which complied with an environmental standard. Ofgem publishes this data each year, and DECC will publish aggregated data.